This is sad.

I grew up watching his show on Tech TV and reading his columns in PC Magazine.

He used to butt heads with Leo Laporte and it was great:

silisili 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Same...well I'll always remember it as ZDTV. Maybe it was my youth, but I remember how exciting tech was then - cool new websites, gadgets, services, etc.

I haven't followed him much since, and seeing his recent pictures made me realize how much time has passed since those days.

Rest in peace, sir.

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barney54 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I enjoyed John and Leo butting heads. I agree that it was great. It's a bummer they haven't done that for a long time.

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lorreyfum 8 hours ago | parent [-]

It was great until Leo went off the deep end and lost 99% of his audience.

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atonse an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I used to listen to so many TwiT podcasts 10+ years ago. But then slowly lost interest and I don't remember why.

But they used to be awesome. FLOSS weekly, Security Now, MacBreak Weekly, etc.

But a few years ago, I found out there were some scandals at TwiT, etc, but the network still seems to be going on though.

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boyter 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When Leo cut off Dvroak and CJal I turned out. You really do need that sort of personality for people to bounce off otherwise its less entertaining.

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etempleton 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Both of them kind of lost the thread. I really enjoyed the show but they became increasingly polarized and unmoving in their opinions.

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robertoandred 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Deep end how?

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echelon 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I didn't stick around that long to see what became of it.

I see different people saying different things about Leo and John. What happened?

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etempleton 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I think their butting heads eventually got on both of their nerves. John would derail the show just to get under Leo’s skin. And Leo became increasingly ridged with the show structure. The show was losing popularity and I think some guests said they didn’t like John because he was cranky and his politics, but the real issue was probably that the studio was no longer as convenient for people to get to.

At the same time they both became increasingly politically polarized. John C Davorak became a full right wing conspiracy theorist. Leo increasingly embraced the left wing ideology of the moment.

	▲	boyter 7 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It came to a head with that story about the kid making a clock and getting in trouble. Leo was all in on one side that it was about racism and such, with John suggesting he fell for a media lie. I think John turned out to be right in the end. They did seem to patch things up with John appearing on a episode years later I think "a christmas miracle" was the title, but that was the last time he was on as far as I know.

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Brian_K_White 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

And Leo will say nothing but nice things about him and express nothing but regret when he talks about this on the next episode.

I am not sure John would have done the same.

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atlanta90210 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I promise you John would have been sad. Their differences are similar to why half the country dislikes the political views of the other half of our country. They both were tech nerds at heart and they both are treasures even with Leo’s TDS.

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CyberDildonics 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why take this to a place of insults and divisive antagonizing?

	▲	atlanta90210 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It’s ok I am sure John would appreciate the discussion. They both are treasures.