It was kinda debatable until people started Claude coding everything. Even before, I would've said every SWE should just know SQL, it's not much buy-in to understand the foundation of like your entire backend. Also I'm not a DBA if that's what you meant.

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InsideOutSanta 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Leaning SQL is arguably less dev work over the long run than learning an ORM and then learning how it works so you can fix performance issues.

	▲	frollogaston 10 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yep, there have been extended periods of time where my entire job title might as well have been "ORM remover" because they backed themselves into a corner

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ozim 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I have never seen a dev and we never would hire a dev that doesn’t know SQL and yet we still use ORM for each and every app we develop.