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MiguelVieira 3 days ago

Here's a site that asks the same questions to 22 models and compares how similar their responses are.

https://typebulb.com/u/lab/you-re-relatively-right/full

According to these results GLM 5.2 is very similar to Google Gemini and Kimi K3 is very similar to Fable 5.

The American frontier labs are not similar to each other.

xyzsparetimexyz 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

Interesting. This dooes lend credence to the distillation idea. Good for them!

trollbridge 3 days ago | parent [-]

GLM 5.2 is light years ahead of anything called “Gemini”.

qeternity 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I think it’s fairly obvious the Chinese labs are doing mass distillation.

I also think the Fable accusation is wrong and it was most likely Opus 4.8 which itself is likely a distillation of Fable.

sailingparrot 3 days ago | parent [-]

You have it backwards IMHO, obviously can't prove it, but I would bet that Opus was used to bootstrap Fable. It becomes very confusing since we have started calling everything distillation, but most likely what both Anthropic did for Fable and Moonshot did for K3 was using Opus traces in the reasoning SFT stage during mid training.