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o_m an hour ago

I've subscribed to Kagi for three of years now. Kagi is still great, but it doesn't feel like "Google ten years ago" anymore. I don't think it is because Kagi got worse, rather it is the web that has become worse. The content nowadays kinda sucks.

optionalsquid an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah, it's become quite noticeable. The amount of clearly LLM generated sites that I've blocked just keeps going up and up. The only advantage Kagi has in that regard is that blocks are account wide, regardless of what device you use

dmrivers an hour ago | parent [-]

I would be interested in seeing that block list if you have it somewhere

OneDeuxTriSeiGo 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Kagi nowadays has a feature called "SlopStop" that you can opt into. It's basically a global block list for LLM generated websites, etc that is shared across all users who opt into and anyone can report sites/content to it.

Kagi of course reviews it but generally it's good enough that I don't see much LLM generated content in the results anymore.

progval 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Kagi of course reviews it

They had quite some lag at the beginning. I made reports from the very day they announced it, and none of them were processed last month. But they are now! (Though they rejected half of them)

optionalsquid 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I doubt that my list would be of much use to you, since a lot of the sites relate to specific hobbies.

However, as eloisius mentioned, you can view the most commonly blocked sites. Going through that list is a good start: https://kagi.com/stats?stat=insights

JohnFen 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

I didn't know that page existed, thanks! I was amused to see that my blocklist already includes most of the sites that appear there.

vivzkestrel 42 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

- start with this website https://www.xjavascript.com/blog/ block it everywhere

eloisius 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

If you’re a Kagi user you can view the most-blocked list and adopt it

sanderjd 29 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But this is also why Google "sucks now". The thesis of these competitors was that Google got worse because of bad product decisions or implementation failures. But I found that to be a very questionable thesis from the start.

Arkhaine_kupo 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> The thesis of these competitors was that Google got worse because of bad product decisions or implementation failures.

But they did though. Google results got significantly worse after ads started lagging in revenue. So they hindered search and increased focus on the ad platform which shot up profits in 2019 I believe.

The web becoming more inhospitable is true. But Google has the tools, the data, and the engineers to wade through the bs and return good results. They just rather have bad results and good ads because that is where their bread is buttered.

A lot of competitors are working with a fraction of the budget, teams and data. So asking a small team to do proper AI detection, to return smaller indexed sites with high quality info over mass linked SEO abused hellscapes is very complicated, but asking Google to figure it out is proportional to their talent, expertise and resources.

It just not going to move their bottom line, so search is de prioritised compared to ads (some might even argue its made worse on purpose to make ads look even better)

calessian 14 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Google can both be worse because of the web results declining in quality and terrible product decisions. It is of course much easier to see one of the two, and make an alternative search interface possibly using different rating criteria. It just can’t solve the entire issue, because spam is also absolutely cheap to mass produce now.

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cyanydeez 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

kagi sorts by recency and thats the best. i dont just want this months results but whats been update.

of course i dont know how they calculate but hopefully they SEO proof against listicles that just increment date stamps with the same stale content

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vivzkestrel 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

imagine if we had a browser like kagi with its own engine from scratch where you are not the product and it charged you a monthly subscription for privacy free browsing

Larrikin 16 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

What's wrong with Firefox and AdNauseum?

menno-sh 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I mean, Orion exists (on Mac at least, although I heard there's a Linux version now?). Might not have its own engine built from the ground up, but WebKit is pretty much the next best thing.