| ▲ | blackqueeriroh 4 hours ago | ||||||||||||||||
For anyone who thinks the problem is Anthropic, I want you all to know that most authors make less than the median income. Most make less than $20,000 a year, because publishing houses give authors an advance, and then authors must pay back that entire advance in sales before they see a dollar of profit from their work. Most never do. Maybe publishers should JUST pay authors WELL, and get a book every 2-3 years. https://authorsguild.org/news/key-takeaways-from-2023-author... | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bruce511 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
>> Maybe publishers should JUST pay authors WELL, and get a book every 2-3 years There are a couple problems with this approach. Firstly, while the median income is 20k, the book business is like films or music; ie not evenly distributed. At the top end are a small number of successful authors. They effectively subsidize the publishing house while the house throws advances at authors hoping for the next big whale. Many books never earn back their advance. Meaning if the author was paid out of royalties they'd make less, not more. Making advances bigger would result in fewer advances. The pot of money is finite. This is all happening in a market where supply is unconstrained (everyone thinks they can write), and demand is very limited. And before we discuss the value, or lack thereof of having an intermediary at all, it should be noted from your link that the median for published authors is higher than self-published authors. So clearly they seem to be making authors more valuable. In truth of course, most (published) books aren't terribly valuable. Like music and movies most float to the bottom. So no, the answer is not "pay authors more". | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | bloppe 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
If most books never recoup the advance in sales, then isn't this a better deal for most authors? It sounds like a guaranteed floor which might be very low but is nonetheless higher than the alternative | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | potlee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
> then authors must pay back that entire advance in sales before they see a dollar of profit from their work. Most never do. Thats a nice way of saying publishing houses are paying most authors more than they make from the sales | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | broodbucket 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
There can be more than one problem at once | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | qurren 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Part of the problem is the rest of us are broke as well and taxed to death so we don't have much left. If they paid you well, we wouldn't be able to afford your books. | |||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | fhe 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
if authors get an advance that's greater than the sale of their books, doesn't it mean that the publishers lose money, i.e. paid more for those books than the books sales? | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | ori_b 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||
Yes, the Anthropic settlement is far too small to distribute fairly. It seems like you think this makes the action that lead to this settlement justified? | |||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | duped 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||
The problem is the plagiarism | |||||||||||||||||
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