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IshKebab 2 hours ago

> You're suggesting they purposely put a backdoor into all their custom methods? Why?

I'm not sure what you mean by "custom methods", but I'm not saying they have bypassed the e2e encryption - I'm just saying that they technically could.

And as for why they would do that, they might get compelled by a government to do it secretly. As far as I know that hasn't happened yet but I see no reason it couldn't and it would take a whistleblower to find out.

> Security wise it's amazing. If a company's admin cannot take your data it's excedingly hard for a hacker to do so.

I agree, it is the best option available. But Apple/Meta are technically lying when they say it's impossible for them to read your messages.

kyralis 39 minutes ago | parent [-]

They are not lying when they say that they cannot read your messages at rest or in transit without actively changing the code so that you start trusting a new key. The keys sync between devices in ways that Apple cannot read.

This is not bulletproof, because they can potentially change the code to do this - this is what the FBI vs Apple thing was a few years ago was all about.