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sulam 3 hours ago

I feel like this might be solving a real problem (agents having identity, access controls, etc that are provisioned like you would a regular user) — with this Nostr layer that doesn’t really provide any specific value that I can see. So actions are signed, great — this is like telling me I’m going to be using blockchain to store my files because I need crypto on top of my crypto. We see where that ended up. Is Nostr doing anything here that is actually a value add, vs a processing tax that could be done more efficiently with a shared service?

barnabee 29 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

I like that using keypairs and signed messages inverts the centralised server and SaaS model and makes things more local/client first. I wish more products would move that way.

Nostr seems like a reasonably convenient way to achieve that without building everything from scratch, but maybe there a better ways?

tlongwell-block 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nostr gives you and your agents a durable, portable identity across communities/relays/workspaces.

You can also independently verify that the messages you're reading came from the person/agent who sent them, even if the server/relay operator is broken or trying to trick you.

This can be important in environments that live outside of enterprise auth walled gardens.

baron3dl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

nostr solves for who owns the shared service. nobody. run your own, use an open relay, or pay for one from folks you trust.

sulam 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The story right now is to own the least you possibly can, at least if you're a business. If I can buy it that's usually the right choice, in terms of opportunity cost if nothing else.

designerarvid 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What problem is that a solution to? Is there a problem with someone owning it, in that case: what?

baron3dl an hour ago | parent | next [-]

consignment to existence as a cloud serf. paying rents to have your data held hostage and exploited by a third party. maybe these aren't problems for you

barnabee 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

> Is there a problem with someone owning it

Yes

> what?

They can decide you can't use it anymore

They can decide to charge more for it

They can arbitrarily take features out from under you or change how it works

They can read and/or sell/give away/accidentally get exploited and lose your data

They can prevent your extracting your data to move away from them

They can prevent you building or integrating other tools

They control how you can modify or configure the software

...

sroerick 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I had the same thought - but maybe it's good? I was thinking that if you have a decentralized store than you can connect to it regardless of dev environment. I've used XMPP for orchestration but I can see ergonomic advantages to this.