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jmward01 a day ago

You prepare for the 9.0 earthquake that can happen once in 500 years because it is a 9.0 earthquake and if you haven't prepared your society is dead, not because you think it will most likely happen in your lifetime.

khurs a day ago | parent | next [-]

Most countries don't prepare for earthquakes. Only countries that get earthquakes do.

YAGNI - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_aren%27t_gonna_need_it

dredmorbius a day ago | parent | next [-]

The countries that do prepare for catastrophic megaquakes do so despite the fact that the incidence frequency is quite low, because the consequence magnitude is so great.

Even regions with few quakes may have a history of large quakes. The New Madrid region (southern Illinois, southeastern Missouri, southwestern Kentucky, northwestern Tennessee, northeastern Arkansas) doesn't experience especially frequent temblors, but when they do occur, they're doozies:

<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1811%E2%80%931812_New_Madrid_e...>

The potential risks of PQC are large enough that preemptive countermeasures seem prudent.

anakaine a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Not entirely true. Australian emergency services routinely prep for earthquake despite having only one or two decent shakes causing mass damage in recorded post colonisation history.

That prep doesn't extend to building standards for higher magnitude quakes.

Appropriate prep is still important for a possible credible threat, even if it is likely to be a rare issue, and the magnitude of that prep differs by personal posture and exposure.

tsimionescu 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does anyone actually do that? Does any country in the world require all buildings, or even some large subset of critical buildings, to be designed and/or retrofitted for 9.0 magnitude earthquake resistance?

pseudohadamard 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This isn't preparing for earthquakes, which are a real thing and happen all the time. No-one has ever achieved any crypto result with a "quantum computer" after 20+ years and billions of dollars spent, and there's no sign they will either.

So this isn't preparing for earthquakes, this is preparing for fairies and elves.

benj111 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Most of the west had/have bomb shelters and other things for a nuclear attack.

"Fairies and elves" suggest it's impossible. It isn't impossible, just very difficult. I'm here in bed conversing with someone on the other side of the world with a hand held device. The would have been "Fairies and elves" 50 years ago.

pseudohadamard 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Preparing for unicorns would be fine if that was the only problem out there. However what's actually out there is buffer overflows, phishing, SQLI, and a bazillion other attacks being exploited on a global scale. So every bit of effort invested in preparing for unicorns is effort that's not invested in dealing with the massive amounts of attacks that are happening right now. It has negative utility.

It's like worrying about reinforcing the barn wall in front of you against komodo dragons when the other three walls of the barn are missing.

NetMageSCW 8 hours ago | parent [-]

We can do more than one thing.