I wonder how many comments will complain about DEI for men.

fhdkweig 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

When I was a kid, I thought that nurse/doctor was a gender specific term. They went to the same schools, but when they graduated, men were called "doctors" and girls were called "nurses". It was an embarrassing moment when I found out that, no, they are not the same thing.

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TMWNN 8 hours ago | parent [-]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6AYJ9YQpxQI

	▲	fhdkweig 8 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Thanks, "because cats are girls and dogs are boys" triggered a memory of SNL sketch of a faux-1952 educational film strip "A lady's guide to party planning" from 2009. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI_c1F994gs

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qup 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not DEI.

When you're short on nurses, trying to invite men isn't DEI.

If we had plenty of qualified nurses, but hospitals made quotas saying that 20% of nurses must be men, that would be DEI.

It's replacing merit (let me sort for "best available nurse" and hire that person) with another attribute (let me sort for "male nurse," then sort for "best available nurse in the male group", and hire that person). If you hire the best available male nurse, you may have passed on the best available nurse. Given the demographics of nursing, seems likely.

Anyway, they're not talking about having a surplus of candidates, so that doesn't apply.

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bonsai_spool 8 hours ago | parent [-]

What does the ‘I’ stand for in DEI?

Say a man thinks nursing is for women and not for men. Say an employer wants more nurses irrespective of sex. Is that employer engaging in DEI if they spend more money on male re-education than on recruiting women?

	▲	qup 6 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Depends on why they're spending it that way, not whether they're spending it that way. The problem is the "male re-education" and "recruiting women." They should just have a recruiting budget and a re-education budget. There should be a way to determine the best spend of the money. Maybe one method of generating a nurse is cheaper, or produces a better quality employee. When you try to have the process generate "at least this percentage of [male/brown/etc] people" instead of just generate the most/best candidates, then you have DEI. The process doesn't produce the most, or best quality employees --it works to force an outcome that is unrelated to employee skill or best business practices.
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