| ▲ | slashdave 6 hours ago |
| > end to end encryption means no CSAM scanning Not true. There is the option of scanning on the device. |
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| ▲ | EmbarrassedHelp 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Circumventing encryption with client side scanning is on par with requiring encryption backdoors, and goes against the purpose of having end to end encryption. |
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| ▲ | slashdave an hour ago | parent [-] | | > on par with requiring encryption backdoors There is no back door if nothing leaves your device > goes against the purpose of having end to end encryption Most people would consider the "purpose" is to avoid 3rd parties listening in | | |
| ▲ | eimrine 24 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If nothing leaves the device so why to scan it at all? This is what proves your statement about compatibility of scanning and e2ee to be wrong. |
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| ▲ | yason 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Owning your device (instead of the manufacturer, a set of unlisted governments, big software corporations, etc.) means no scanning. |
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| ▲ | pantalaimon 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | It also means no banking app will work | | |
| ▲ | mothballed 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Banks are probably the most Orwellian surveillance apparatus of all. Almost every time I read an arrest warrant there is a whole section where banking records are used to damn someone. The equivalent level of banking privacy to graphene is roughly walking in to the teller to withdraw a few thousand cash once a month and then paying literally everything with that (or an anonymized crypto). | | |
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