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ninjagoo 9 hours ago

From Arduino's Terms & Conditions [1], Section 8.2:

"8.2 User shall not:

- translate, decompile or reverse-engineer the Platform, or engage in any other activity designed to identify the algorithms and logic of the Platform’s operation, unless expressly allowed by Arduino or by applicable license agreements; or

- extract or make copies of the information contained in the Platform (except with respect to Content owned by other users), make derivative works from the Platform, reuse the Platform, or make any other use of the Platform other than as set forth in these Terms or as permitted by applicable law."

Does anyone really want to use an "open-source" maker/tinkering platform with such egregious rules against tinkering?

[1] https://www.arduino.cc/en/terms-conditions/

deckar01 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The “Platform” is just the website. They are saying don’t hack our servers. There is a caveat for content published under an open source license (like the docs).

ninjagoo 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> The “Platform” is just the website

Arduino is the platform, not the website.

  From the same terms and conditions, in the first 2-3 paragraphs where they define the terms:

  "The use of the Arduino Platform and the Services (each as defined below) available on, from, or through Arduino.cc (“Site”) ..."

  "By using the Site, the Platform, or the Services, you declare to have read and accepted ..."

  "If you are under 18 years of age, you may use the Site, the Platform, and the Services only with the consent and supervision of your parent or legal guardian."
Further, in section 1.1:

  " ... and to further develop the Arduino open source ecosystem (collectively, the “Platform”). The use of the Site, the Platform, and the Services is governed by these Terms ... "
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bobmcnamara 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Consider yourself Qualcommified.

VerifiedReports 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And with such poor value for the money. When an Arduino costs as much as a Raspberry Pi 4, it's eliminated from contention.

matheusmoreira 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does this actually stop anyone?

p0w3n3d 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

can I "teach" my llm on it though?

Later in court: it wasn't me! It was my agent. LLM agent