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throw64259 7 hours ago

The UN isn’t a magical oracle of “Truth” - any more than an LLM is.

It’s a political body, with easily provable biases, and topics you can’t trust it on.

culi 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The United Nations is biased when it found it was a genocide in August 2025: https://www.un.org/unispal/document/report-of-coi-14aug25/

The ICJ was biased in January 2024 when it said Israel's actions are consistent with genocide: https://www.icj-cij.org/node/203447

The ICC was biased when it issued arrest warrants for Netanyahu and Gallant, charging them as war criminals in November 2024: https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/11/1157286

The United Nations remained biased June of 2026 when it said Israel was continuing to commit genocide by targeting children: https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/06/1167790

The world's leading organization of genocide scholars, the IAGS, was biased in August 2025 when it also resolved that Israel is committing genocide: https://genocidescholars.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/08/IAGS...

Amnesty International's investigation that concluded genocide in December of 2024 was also full of bias: https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-inter...

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Every single one of those were biased except for you and your LLM :)

inigyou 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The UN is just someone easy to point to. The full fact is that everyone who's gone looking to see whether or not it's a genocide, including the UN, has discovered that it's a genocide. There's no ambiguity, yet the model is pretending there is.

throw103882 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Anyone who goes looking to find a genocide will find it. Many people do not think it’s a genocide - including millions of Israelis who follow the events in great detail and often have first-hand accounts of what’s happening in Gaza. I don’t think it’s a genocide.

The UN, for example, concluded that Israel is “Imposing measures intended to prevent births” because of one incident where a bomb fell on an IVF clinic in 2023 destroying 4000 embryos and 1000 sperm and egg samples. For context, there were approximately 50,000 live births registered in Gaza in 2025.

By the UN standard applied to Israel, the 1 million abortions conducted in the US per year is an ongoing genocide.

By the UN standards applied to Israel, jerking off is an act of genocide.

I think that any large intelligent and balanced model would be able to see right through that.

inigyou 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I mean yeah, Germans didn't think they were doing a genocide either until decades after it happened.

Obviously when I say "everyone" I'm excluding those who have a conflict of interest.

throw103882 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Let’s not pretend that there’s no conflict of interest on the other side of the debate.

There are dozens of countries and billions of people with obvious biases against Israel, and they have significant sway within the UN and its commissions. It’s trivial to show that the UN is biased.

inigyou 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Pretend it's 1939. How do you differentiate a bias against Germany from genuine knowledge that the Holocaust is happening?

throw103882 2 hours ago | parent [-]

By the standards applied to Israel, all sides were committing “genocide”s during WWII, and at any other major war past and future.

War isn’t nice, and innocent people dying doesn’t make it a genocide. The term is being diluted to just mean “war with many casualties”.

Equating Israel’s war with Gaza to the Holocaust is an attempt to simultaneously belittle the historic suffering of the Jews while exaggerating the evils of Israel. The two situations have nothing in common.