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weird-eye-issue 16 hours ago

The meta keywords in the HTML is very interesting. 100+ references to NSFW topics such as hentai, nudes, etc.

postalcoder 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

That's hilarious. These keywords are applied globally, even on pages like https://qwen.ai/usagepolicy, where they very kindly ask you not to use their products for sexual content.

Run this in console to see all the tags:

  document.querySelector('meta[name="keywords"]').content
khurs 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

WTF lol

    who made qwen stefani's dress

    spiderman into the spider verse did qwen meet Peter

    qwen stacey porn

    do blake shelton and qwen stafani have children together
postalcoder 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've been thinking about this too much because it's so ridiculous and funny that I had to at least try wrapping my head around it. My best guess is this:

If you look at past snapshots at archive.org, you notice that the meta keywords are growing like an append-only list, which means it's probably part of some messed up seo pipeline. The other clue is that it's stuffing the meta keywords which apparently only Yandex uses as a search signal[0].

The list has 3882 entries. A lot of them are clustered and look like auto-complete results. But a bunch of them look like hyper-specific, misspelled search results (e.g. "145 gwen rd cheshire ct"). Google's webmaster tools doesn't provide distinct queries like that, but yandex's does[1].

My best guess of what's happening is that Qwen is monitoring it's search queries in Yandex, dumping that list into a serp service that scrapes yandex's autocomplete suggestions, and then taking that list and dumping it into their meta keywords.

It explains the urls in the list (ppls using search engines like address bars), the seeming fixation around certain topics (which usually starts with a misspelling), and the random one-off queries.

0: https://yandex.com/support/webmaster/en/controlling-robot/me...

1: https://yandex.com/support/webmaster/en/service/popular-quer...

weird-eye-issue an hour ago | parent [-]

"Google's webmaster tools doesn't provide distinct queries like that"

Yes it does

Anyways your theory is wrong because they don't rank for things like "ChatGPT login". It's just a keyword list from auto complete data not their own ranking data

OkWing99 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some of it is a reference to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Woman_(Gwen_Stacy)

(i.e. the porn references)

drcongo 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

    ben 10 four arms porn qwen
These keywords are kinda wild.
Schlagbohrer 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Which LLM do you think they used to generate the keywords

LoveMortuus 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why would they added URLs for porn websites to their keywords? Like literally the names of websites with ".com" and such at the end.

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user43928 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I assume they use a SEO tool that automatically adds these meta keywords to optimize for some search engines.

It apparently adds common search terms that contain words like "qwen". This evidently includes possibly mistyped searches for "gwen" or "ben" in a NSFW context.

Maybe someone knows more about how such SEO tools work, and where they pull the data from.

spiderfarmer 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Sounds like “keyword shitter” (genuine tool)

chmod775 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Bonus points for also covering misspellings like "pregbant".

QuantumNomad_ 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

how is prangent formed

Am i gregnant?

https://youtu.be/EShUeudtaFg

yewenjie 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

how do i stop my son from looking at pikachu porn

Geee 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

how is babby formed? how girl get pragnent?

user_7832 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If a women has starch masks on her body does that mean she has been pargnet before.?

jmuguy 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

mothers who kill thier babby. becuse these babbys cant frigth back?

GrinningFool 10 hours ago | parent [-]

That got dark.

jmuguy 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Its an old something awful thing https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/how-is-babby-formed

GrinningFool 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Hah, today's 10k.

Mtinie 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

qregnant

gchamonlive 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can you even get pregnato

timedude 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Stork bring baby

isoprophlex 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

show bobs and vegana!

walrus01 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For those unfamiliar.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/bobs-and-vegana

user_7832 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's racist!

(See kids, it is possible to fight memes/racism with memes! And well... yeah, this really is racist.)

marginalia_nu 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This reddit slop is unbecoming of HN.

gchamonlive 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Is there such a thing as Reddit "unslop"? Thought it went without saying.

hedora 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Please don’t violate community guidelines like this. All HN threads look like this. Don’t make me report you to a submod.

> Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.

sgc 10 hours ago | parent [-]

> Don’t make me report you to a submod.

This is pathologically outside scope. I don't think I have ever seen somebody threaten somebody else on hn before. The 'don't make me do it to you' abuser trope is next level.

user- 10 hours ago | parent [-]

dont make me report you to a sub sub mod!

01284a7e 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What value does the 'keywords' meta tag even have these days? 77+ KB of crap added to the page weight. Web development is full of idiots.

j0ej0ej0e 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe it's completely intentional and it's making a comeback at least with LLMs? Google say it has no value, but LLMs probably genuinely use it.

ssalka 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the Qwen team is probably aware that the NSFW community is very quick to adopt any new image gen model (see: Civitai). So, it seems like a good SEO approach to try and surface their model in search results that said community is likely already checking.

lukan 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That is hilarious as porn is illegal in China. But I guess pron SEO is allright, if it is against the west.

weird-eye-issue 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Western search engines simply ignore the meta keywords tag for over a decade now

lukan 15 hours ago | parent [-]

So what is the point then?

weird-eye-issue 15 hours ago | parent [-]

There is no point. It's from people that have no clue which is most people that do search engine optimization

That said it's possible search engines in China or other countries might use it, but it's very easy to game so it doesn't really make sense

vitalyan8184 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

uh, are you implying that porn is bad somehow? I can show you a hundred articles that say only nazi incel chuds believe so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/07/us/hate-groups-porn-consp...

porn is as American as apple pie.

Lio 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> porn is as American as apple pie

So not at all then as Apple Pie is a traditional English desert. :P

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_pie

lukan 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Incels are probably the biggest porn consumers.

Apart from that, I made no judgement about porn in general, just about porn tags in Chinese backed AI websites.

drakythe 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interesting too that they would include "ai friend" when China just added restrictions on AI "partners" such that many services stopped offering them rather than try to adhere to the restrictions.

walrus01 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow you really weren't kidding. Fully automated AI slop tentacles for everyone!

https://pastes.io/uenL6X9K

It also seems to have an obsession with this celebrity, based on how many times ctrl-f for "stefani" turns up a result.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gwen_Stefani

weird-eye-issue 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> spider qwen thicc, spider qwen tied up, spider qwen toddler costume, spider qwen trans, spider qwen wallpaper, spider qwen xxx hentai

walrus01 16 hours ago | parent [-]

spiderman pointing at spiderman meme trans wallpaper xxx thicc hentai

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goobatrooba 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wow, crazy things - "shemale porn", "spider fucks venom", and various porn URLs like tushy.com. What the hell did they do to their AI? Is that the training corpus or intended use case?

walrus01 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Is that the training corpus or intended use case?

[whynotboth.gif]

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Mashimo 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> total drama qwen hentai

Do you want to know more?

[ ] Yes [x] no

jpfromlondon 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Qwentai

WithinReason 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

probably due to misspellings as qwen stefani

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pdpi 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Keyword typosquatting I guess?

alex_suzuki 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> ben 10 hentai game where qwen gets drunk

erm... what?

archon1410 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Surely it was meant to be "Gwen" (the protagonist's cousin and the other main character in the show). I guess it was somehow (incorrectly) assumed to be a misspelling of Qwen and included in the tags. Or perhaps many people were misspelling Gwen as "Qwen" and it was all hoovered up.

walrus01 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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bbor 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Whelp today’s a unique day on hacker news, wow! Didn’t expect to read that at my desk lol

WhereIsTheTruth 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Brainrot is the new opium war

cyanydeez 14 hours ago | parent [-]

how the turn tables

felooboolooomba 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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