> There is a crazy amount of bugs which I have no confidence will ever get fixed.

Like what honestly I've been running one for years and have had nearly zero issues.

I've used Jellyfin for years and my experience is currently incredibly smooth and works like a dream for the whole family.

I only use it for movies and TV shows though, the live TV experience (with a HDHomeRun) was incredibly buggy and slow, and once you've tried it and failed, it seems like it's impossible to remove the remnants of it from your interface.

The music and audiobook support never felt like it was as polished as TV/movies either, so I gave up on that.

Now I use:

* Jellyfin for films/TV shows

* Channels for live TV

* Navidrome for music

* Audioookshelf for audiobooks and podcasts

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thaumasiotes 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My jellyfin installation chokes on audiobooks. There is a very noticeable pause between each track that it plays, despite the entire thing being queued.

That pause is presumably also present when playing music, but no one notices because each song is its own track. Audiobook tracks split in places where a pause would never occur naturally.

The second-most-annoying trait of Jellyfin in my experience is technically not a bug, but should definitely be fixed. It hardcodes expectations of how to determine what season and episode number to assign to files. And if you overwrite them, it will re-mangle them on scan unless you take precautions to stop it.

As far as Jellyfin is concerned, your files must include a tag of the form S__E__ somewhere in the filename. Being located in a folder called "Season 2" with names like "11 - name of episode" won't work. Substrings like 第2集 won't work. Setting actual metadata tags on the file ( https://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php/FFmpeg_Metadata ) doesn't work; jellyfin ignores them.

Let me provide a per-folder template for extracting season / episode information. Jellyfin already lets you prefer embedded artwork to whatever it finds on the internet. Why enforce hallucinated episode numbers when explicit ones are clearly present?

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tick_tock_tick 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I've never tried it for audiobooks frankly didn't even know it supported them.

> Let me provide a per-folder template for extracting season / episode information.

That's frankly not what I would call a bug and a bunch of work for near zero benefit. Not to be mean but why do you care? and if it really bothers you just use hardlinks let jellyfin see what it needs and you can have your pretty version for youself.

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cyberrock 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I really dislike this paradigm that the user needs to become a human DBMS, and rename/link files or write template rules for the media server to understand. It was understandable back in XBMC days but it just feels silly now. Surely it can extract some Musicbrainz-like fingerprint from the media instead of only relying on filename.

But the truly disgusting part is how XBMC/Kodi/Plex/Jellyfin just reassigns the files to another show and there is absolutely no way to audit what's going on other than realizing that some show has two files per episodes or some show you don't have is in the library. Why can't this be easier to inspect?

After two decades I just gave up and use the Home Video mode (just show me my directories mode) on Jellyfin to avoid having to deal with metadata.

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thaumasiotes 2 days ago | parent [-]

For a related issue, Kim Possible was aired out of order, leading to various problems if you watch the episodes in the order they were aired. I am given to understand this is fairly common for older TV shows.

Jellyfin has major problems dealing with this common situation. To Jellyfin, the source of truth is imdb. Imdb numbers Kim Possible episodes in the order they were aired. If you want the metadata that jellyfin scrapes from imdb, and you also want to watch the episodes in an appropriate order, you have to do this:

1. Number all of the episodes in airing order.

2. Ask Jellyfin to fetch the metadata.

3. Renumber the episodes into the correct order.

4. Remember never to ask Jellyfin to scan any directory that contains those episodes again.

If you mess up, Jellyfin will attach descriptions and preview images to every file that aren't, technically, related to the episode in that file.

	▲	rebeccaskinner 2 days ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Jellyfin will let you set up alternate metadata providers and select between different episode ordering if available (https://forum.jellyfin.org/t-resolved-dvd-order-instead-of-a...). For tv shows especially TVDB will tend to have alternate orderings most often, and TMDB will occasionally have alternate orderings available.
	▲	bigstrat2003 a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		That isn't a Jellyfin thing, Plex has the same issue. And both Jellyfin and Plex give you mechanisms to resolve that issue (using the alternate episode ordering that the metadata provider has, rather than the default one, or using another metadata provider if need be).

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thaumasiotes 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> I've never tried it for audiobooks frankly didn't even know it supported them.

It's a music player. How could it not support audiobooks? You think it will rate your tracks and refuse to play them if they're insufficiently "musical"?

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ncallaway 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

I think I have an idea of how it might not support audio books. What if audio books had the following issue:

> There is a very noticeable pause between each track that it plays, despite the entire thing being queued.

> That pause is presumably also present when playing music, but no one notices because each song is its own track. Audiobook tracks split in places where a pause would never occur naturally.

It would almost be like it wasn't really built with audio books in mind, but was rather designed around music.

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optionalsquid 2 days ago | parent [-]

> It would almost be like it wasn't really built with audio books in mind, but was rather designed around music.

If Jellyfin was designed around music, then I would expect it to support gap-less playback out of the box. Albums where each track seamlessly transitions into the next are not that rare

	▲	ncallaway a day ago \| parent [-]
		> If Jellyfin was designed around music I think what you said is a fair response to me, but I wanted to respond to this specific phrasing. I don't think Jellyfin was designed around music. I think music was an afterthought added after the fact, and shoehorned into the rest of the experience. And then I think audiobooks in jellyfin are basically an afterthought of an afterthought. (Again, I'm just responding to clarify if I accidentally conveyed a misconception about Jellyfin's music support)

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viccis 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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thaumasiotes 2 days ago | parent [-]

Do you not know how audio files work?

	▲	viccis a day ago \| parent [-]
		"Supporting audiobooks" involves more than just playing audio files, unless you want to ignore the basic set of features associated with audiobooks as their own medium.

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jorams 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

> As far as Jellyfin is concerned, your files must include a tag of the form S__E__ somewhere in the filename. Being located in a folder called "Season 2" with names like "11 - name of episode" won't work.

I mean, I've got many like that and yes it does work. `s01/01 - Pilot.mkv` is recognized as season 1, episode 1, etc.

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NegativeLatency 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Could try submitting a patch?