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therein 13 hours ago

Because clearly we are powerless. Someone should post that chart of how likely a law is to be passed vs. how much the people want it or not. It is basically a flat line. People's will have zero impact.

thaumaturgy 12 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Every time someone repeats this, they are telling a self-fulfilling story. I got a law passed -- a state law, about ALPRs, establishing a list of restrictions on them. I didn't do it alone, I had a lot of really important help, including from ACLU of Oregon. There was a lot of opposition, and it ate months of my life, but it was worth it.

I never would have accomplished that if I spent more time reading comments on the internet about all the things we are powerless to do.

chneu 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If I was an abuser who wanted my victims to feel like they couldn't do anything, I'd try to convince them of some version what you just said.

Congrats! You decided to give up.

You're now advocating against your best interests and the best interests of everyone you love. Way to go, slugger!

moate 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Seriously. I'm as left wing as you can go and I still think that voting is useful to influence the system while building a critical mass of people willing to break the wheel. Saying "we'll never get class solidarity" is the most annoying and pointless thing someone can say so you have to assume they're working to ensure it is the case.