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t1234s 15 hours ago

I doubt the surveillance state is going away any time soon.

elictronic 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Company directly lies to governing body of city. Is found out the next day. Loses contract. Attacks city online afterwards.

This isn’t about surveillance states, it’s about companies run by idiots.

wmf 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Ironically, Flock might create enough backlash to trigger regulations against surveillance. They're certainly an example of what not to do.

zombot 8 hours ago | parent [-]

While police just use fleets of drones. Hardly any backlash there.

stackghost 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What if the surveillance state is also run by idiots?

wrs 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This just sounds like the standard playbook for this crowd (by which wide brush I mean authoritarians and their enablers). They really hate being called on their lies, and their immediate response is to attack with whatever comes to hand (press release, xeet, the DoJ…depends on the person).

blitzar 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> this crowd

These companies are tech bros - they are selling to the authoritarians and they are increasingly their enablers, funders and biggest sycophants.

Mountain_Skies 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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wredcoll 11 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Don't vague post. Either be specific with names and examples and citations or don't waste our time with generalities about unnamed bad people who did some unspecified bad thing.

nearlyepic 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah dude, Covid vaccinations were what started us on the slide to authoritarianism. Not 9/11. lol give me a break

mindslight 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes, five years ago was the start of it all. Everything was just peachy before then. No authoritarian laws, no government surveillance, no enshittification (aka arbitrage of tech authoritarianism), no private surveillance industry creating dossiers on each of us that would make Stasi agents blush. It was all kicked off by HN comments five years ago. </s>

Please stop grinding whatever axe you think you're grinding, and put that energy towards something useful.

dhosek 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why not both?

FireBeyond 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Re ICE having access to data: "Flock said that they did not, when they did, but that it was not their problem".

Just like it's "not their problem" that in a state where certain types of data sharing is not permitted. There's nothing they'll change in the agency's account to prevent it. They'll even offer training on it. Because it's "not their problem".

otterdude 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It wont go down willingly but its possible

tjwebbnorfolk 12 hours ago | parent [-]

For all the privacy and competence issues, if it helps cops solve crimes while sitting on their asses, it's going to win.