> I use AI chat every day, I find it endlessly useful. It’s replaced google search.

Extremely subsidized agentic search is very superior to Google at the moment, and of course it is. Google is a public company. The AI summary model has to work instantly, is likely as dumb as a 8T param model, and gives you incorrect details constantly. This sucks so much for Google. If you click on "AI Mode," suddenly the facts become more accurate.

Of course, if I want a real answer I happen to go to claude.ai, set it to a the best model, wait for a minute, and use many watts of energy. Slow agentic search that takes many seconds, and is greatly subsidized, is certainly better. This should not be a surprise, should it?

I think it was on a sub like r/singularity that I saw a post along the lines of "of course most people think that 'AI' sucks, as normies are interacting with 8T param models."

tone: genuinely confused about the world, not criticizing

Just realized my typo, hopefully it was obvious that I meant 8B param, not 8T.

Your comment about watts stuck out to me. I became curious how much power we might be talking about.

I’m into Claude for $20/mo (petty bourgeois tier), let’s assume for sake of examination this is only paying for power, infrastructure already amortized

Price of grid power approx $0.15/kWh

$20 / ($0.15/kWh * 30 days) = 4.4 kWh per day.

This same amount of energy can lift a 2-ton SUV 1/2 mile into the air. To me this seems astounding.

If only half the $20 pays for power it’s still quite impressive.