"Stop blaming QA.."

What year is it?! Does anyone still blame QA?! If so, please consult the calendar and enter the 21st century!

Do people still hire QA?

Over the last 16 years all I've seen is people implying (heavily) that they can replace QA with "good enough unit tests"..

Which then inevitably leads to bugs, and performance regressions and developers doing their own QA.

I honestly think that all of this is a psyop to get devs to do more, that and "devops" which is either rebranded sysadmins, or developers working as yaml monkeys between code reviews and feature development.

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akkartik 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yeah I've seen both approaches. Either teams do their own QA or we have a dedicated function. Depends on the domain to some extent. Both can work. But I don't hear people saying stupid shit anymore like "QA is a cost center". When we have it, everyone understands the value.

	▲	jamesfinlayson 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I worked in a team with no QAs for a while - testing was done by developers and there were a lot end to end tests. It worked pretty well - I think a couple of small bugs got through, but whether a QA would have found the issues is debatable. It was for an internal system too so the cost of a defect was low anyway. I've also worked a company with no QAs in some pretty core teams and they had almost no defects either. Currently working on some legacy stuff with no proper end to end tests and I'm very grateful for competent testers right now.

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jamesfinlayson 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> "good enough unit tests"

Good enough end to end tests then maybe.