| ▲ | Havoc 21 hours ago |
| People saying copy aren't wrong...but if you can offer a copy at 1/5th of the price then you've got a winning product not a copy |
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| ▲ | palata 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| All bikes look the same, all cars look the same, all cameras look the same, all bridges, all dams, hell all smartphones look exactly the same! The whole goddamn point of UX is that you make something that is usable, and hence familiar to your users. People who say "I was making GPUs before them, and they built their own GPUs that behave like GPUs so they copied me" don't understand how stuff is built. The hard part in engineering is not "imagining the high-level concept", it's actually making it work. Even if you can open electronics and study it to design and build your own, it requires a lot of expertise. And if you manage to do it, then you are an expert, period. I'm sure many people find comfort in saying stuff like "You know what? I was a bit of a visionary because when I saw the first personal computer, I imagined that it would be cool if it could be orders of magnitudes faster and smaller such that it fits in a pocket". As if that was the hard part. Typically, too many people spend a lot of time talking about UI and stuff like "unpacking" as if that was the most important part. But usually that's because they have no idea about how it works under the hood, so the only thing to discuss is whether the round edges are great or not. |
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| ▲ | xboxnolifes 21 hours ago | parent [-] | | A good UI/UX is noticed and appreciated by many. A great UI/UX goes completely unnoticed by most. | | |
| ▲ | fttt 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | This is false. Apple’s UI/UX is the reason why they are adored from a physical attraction perspective. | | |
| ▲ | saylisteins 20 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Apple UI/UX sucks though, but all the other alternatives also suck. | | | |
| ▲ | theK 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think it can safely be argued that (only) good UX but also great marketing are the reason of that. | |
| ▲ | xboxnolifes 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They have good UI, it's noticed and appreciated by many. | |
| ▲ | ChrisClark 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes, Apple's UI/UX is good, not great. Like far from great. So he's still correct |
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| ▲ | JacobAsmuth 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is Kimi 1/5th the price? Artificial analysis has it at the same price as GPT 5.6 Sol while performing worse. |
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| ▲ | vardalab 21 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah, but maybe Kimi doesn't pretend to know better than I do. Like, I just had a task today where I had a silly form where I wanted to copy in a signature from one document to another document. And, you know, I could have just used some other dumb tools, but I decided, hey, let me us ask Codex to do it. But it started lecturing me on how we can't do this kind of stuff. And it was just pure silliness. So hopefully Kimi Work doesn't try to pretend that it knows better and lets me decide on ethics. This blog post here summed it up the best. These are tools, so let them be tools. https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2026/07/11/ai-20... | | | |
| ▲ | nullsanity 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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| ▲ | gmerc 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Gmail won on price dumping and commoditising the complements, as did Facebook and Instagram and all of American Tech for two decades. They've just met an opponent able to beat their economics because their shareholders are less greedy. There's only one answer to this, same as for Facebook vs TikTok: Lobby for protection |
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| ▲ | sixtyj 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Winning product that can’t answer a simple question regarding Uyghurs or Tiananmen Square… it is a vulnerable product… |
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| ▲ | shepherdjerred 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | As opposed to Claude which has flagged: - anything related to piracy - legit security work (audit my infra, pentest it) - disabling a safety mechanism on my food processor - reverse engineering - creating style guides inspired by other games/companies (for fan projects) - questions about how nerve agents work and how they can be treated (for a layman) | |
| ▲ | nozzlegear 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It's an open model, abliterated versions will appear on HF in the fullness of time. | |
| ▲ | Havoc 20 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'd prefer it uncensored too but this objection was insightful in 2023. Everyone and their dog knows they're censored on topics sensitive to their country, much like western models are censored for western woke sensitivities. Nobody cares anymore as long as the reasoning is good and the price is low | | |
| ▲ | sixtyj 20 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, “Nobody cares” is what scares me. If we don't care about the other person than who we are? On the other side, I am not a woke optimist that everything on Earth is lit by Sun… | | |
| ▲ | crazybonkersai an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Do you really care about events 30 years ago that were blown out of proportions? Right now US is waging an unprovoked war of aggression against Iran, killing civillians every single day and deliberately destroying civilian infrastructure (like bombing universities). Yet there is zero condemnation or any real action from any Western states. All the major media outlets downplay war crimes committed by the US forces and American llms just copy the narrative of the western media. And yet you treat a 30 years old event like it would be the most pressing problem at the moment. | |
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