> but soon models may not need to be updated

Which is why my original post mentioned the volatility in models. We aren't just doing research on frontier, there is a huge amount of research on quantization, distillation, etc. that is changing the landscape at the low-end almost as much as it is changing on the frontier.

And it is also why I mention revealed preference. What feels sufficient / "good enough" today is a moving target. This isn't just a question of what you want, it is a question of what is economically viable for the entity that will be designing, manufacturing and marketing this ASIC of which you speak.

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margalabargala 16 hours ago | parent [-]

That moving target is different for everyone and their use case, and for me, it's already passed. I remember using Opus 4.5 and thinking "this is good enough to do everything I want it to do properly" and I stand by that. Paying $10k for unlimited Opus 4.5 running at 9k tok/s would IMO allow me to do more, faster, than putting the same money into $200/mo anthropic subscriptions for the latest and greatest.

This is me personally. The calculus is different for other people. But I suspect Kimi 3 is pretty darn close to that tipping point for an awful lot of people.

	▲	daadx 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Unless he's talking about personal use then he's a bozo - he won't get to decide. The managers of the firm will. They dont care that its faster unless it translates into the financials. They want lower costs, higher revenues - explain how it fits brudda.