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JohnBooty 18 hours ago

At a 50-100x speedup even a GPT-4o class model could perhaps compete with much newer models simply by thinking deeper, doing harness-controlled Ralph loops, etc. Sure, then it might be "only" ~2-5x faster, but, you wouldn't need to throw all the ASICs into the trash bin.

One could also imagine hybrid models, where part of the model is burned into ASICs and part of the model exists in VRAM/HBM2 so it can be updated.

I don't have enough low-level knowledge to evaluate the technical or economic feasibility of the above ideas, however.

boplicity 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

For many, many tasks, you only need good enough results that accomplish a clearly-defined set of criteria. Smaller models that run 50x faster, in this case, could be far superior to a much slower model that meets the same criteria.

Sometimes you need speed; sometimes you need quality. There are very different use cases for each. For my own workflows, I sometimes want something very simple done ASAP; other workflows need "subjective" reasoning and careful crafting of responses.

tracker1 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Giving a literal monkey the ability to press more keys faster doesn't get a good joke from it.

A model will often come up with worse results given more cycles of compute, only because it will tailspin from second guesses, rethinking and literal flip-flopping on concepts.

--- edit: to those following the thread below... if you look at the comments from the account replying, it's pretty obviously a pro-China account and all replies are antagonistic against anything other than a total submission to the Chinese state. My responses are intentionally antagonistic as every point I've brought up is completely ignored in favor of insults, so yeah, I've been insulting back.

sdfefcxv 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Said the OAI/Anthropic stockholder

tracker1 16 hours ago | parent [-]

LOL.. neither... but good luck on your standup career with jokes by literal monkeys.

sdfefcxv 16 hours ago | parent [-]

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tracker1 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Are you being paid by China? First you accuse me of simply speaking as a financial benefactor, then you totally shift the conversation into something that doesn't refute what I said.

If you let a model spin too much, you get worse results... that's a fact, even for the best models. Nothing you've stated since actually refutes that and acting like a paid bot doesn't mean anything.

I mean, if you want to felate Xi Jinping, have at it... that's all on you bro. I don't have a horse in this race.

sdfefcxv 15 hours ago | parent [-]

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tracker1 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Never said any such thing... China is willing to abuse anyone and everyone including its own people to get ahead in global markets and to leverage any position of dominance possible. They have an absolute history of competition as a fascist economy. I have never, not once, denied such a reality.

You're just an idiot who assumes everyone that doesn't agree with you is the same. I'm surprised you're able to reply with Xi's penis in your mouth... even if it is kind of spacious in there for his limited size. How is the poo bear these days? Does he like it when you gargle his testicles in your mouth?