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dyauspitr a day ago

What I’ve seen is coding is usually done with US frontier models and anything that is part of a feature on an app and runs at scale on the API is a Chinese model because they are dirt cheap.

Someone1234 a day ago | parent | next [-]

That has been my experience too.

It will cost you more than it saves to use smaller Chinese models to code; because of the repeated work. That has been slowly changing recently, but with much larger Chinese models, however those models are so expensive they're much more price-competitive iwth the US competition.

But for actually providing end-user AI features, particularly simpler ones, the US isn't even in contention. The costs and limitations just outright kill those features conceptually.

gs17 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

That's what I lean towards with the exception that Gemma is also good on a lot of tasks and cheap, while not being Chinese.

dyauspitr 21 hours ago | parent [-]

The problem is Gemma is actually not that cheap compared to deepseek for example