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siddboots a day ago

I fed ChatGPT the map with no other context, just “tell me about this function”. It did a bit of work finding the Jacobean etc and eventually worked out the implications of what it was seeing. It then proceeded to check the arithmetic 4 times, and then decided to do a manual verification using an ad hoc symbolic checker in case its SymPy had been tampered with.

ethbr1 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Skepticism is the flipside of knowledge.

If an LLM has knowledge encoded inside it (and it's hard to argue it doesn't), then cognitive dissonance can be experienced. And once experienced, must be dealt with, especially in longer-running agentic loops.

A friend was joking the other day about sending some messages under a previously-used Slack identity for an agent (since turned off), then asking the agent about the messages.

The agent maintained it hadn't sent those messages (no memory) and then was forced to reconcile the idea that the messages indeed appeared to come from it.

Its extremely-agitated conclusion was that there had been a security breach and the entire network should be locked down.

zamadatix 12 hours ago | parent [-]

Another way to look at it is the LLM is, by definition, what's expected to be probable based on the training data and this, by the same definition, is extremely unlikely data to run across. With high uncertainty comes the need to verify until it can level out as "really surprising" instead of "plausible sounding error".

Sophira a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Can you please share the chat log for this? I would absolutely love to see this.

thomascountz 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Not OP, but here's Gemini's reaction: https://aistudio.google.com/app/prompts?state=%7B%22ids%22:%...

dist-epoch a day ago | parent | prev [-]

It's easy to reproduce, I've fed the example in GPT-5.6 Sol Max and it started multi-checking it in all kinds of ways, with multiple symbolic packages then manual computation, then it did extensive literature search on the subject, looked at tens of math websites, extensive arxiv research. this was soon after it was posted, it didn't find the original twits with the finding

eru 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It was easy to reproduce. It's no longer so, because the web search part of what you described is 'poisoned' now. Partially by this very discussion we are having here.

nujabe 20 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I’m sure it’s trivial to reproduce but we don’t want to waste those tokens