Consumer energy prices in China aren’t going up because of AI data centers. Easiest way to see they have an oversupply of energy, primarily due to solar.

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mike_hearn a day ago | parent | next [-]

They don't have many big AI datacenters as they've been GPU constrained for a long time.

Solar is largely irrelevant. You can't run an AI datacenter off solar.

	▲	vlovich123 21 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It absorbs the demand during the day / there’s enough for consumers. Similarly China also has a lot of nuclear. They’ve overbuilt their grid several times over.

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jnwatson a day ago | parent | prev [-]

That consumer energy prices are going up is simply a matter of public policy. Municipalities have the power to keep rates flat, but they choose not to.

	▲	rangestransform 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sierra club environmentalists and NIMBYs have the option to shut the fuck up and stop opposing green power generation, but they still choose to