Those knobs don't do anything, don't be silly. It's just optics.

If this is true then why did Anthropic bother to update their privacy policy when they first launched Fable?

adamtaylor_13 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't have the energy to cynically squint at everything in my life. If a company says "We won't track you" I'll believe it until proven otherwise.

When these companies prove dishonest, I'll adopt skepticism.

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villish a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you have proof of that?

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moffkalast a day ago | parent [-]

Do you have proof it's not? There are no laws they have to follow in regards to it, and it's practically impossible for them to go against their core self interest. More data is literally a direct component to better models and more revenue. If someone proves it's fake worst they get is a month of bad PR and then people will move on, as they always do.

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villish a day ago | parent [-]

> If someone proves it's fake worst they get is a month of bad PR and then people will move on.

You can say they stole from everyone to train their models in the first place and that's valid, but this isn't that. You are saying they are actively ex-filtrating data from any company using their services and lying about it.

Google/Apple/Microsoft or all of the dozen trillion dollar companies in the US would absolutely crush them in litigation. Neither OpenAI or Anthropic would be able to survive it. It's just not worth the risk.

	▲	moffkalast a day ago \| parent [-]
		I'm sure in the handful of cases where they have a genuine bulk contract on paper with a large firm that states they'll be in breach if they train on it, they do abide by it. But unless you are one of those you mentioned and a few others you probably aren't notable enough to care about. Everyone who uses their services directly, paying or not, is surely ignored in that sense. I wouldn't be surprised if there's a team of their own lawyers ready to interpret their EULA in fascinating ways. And out of those three I'd only probably assume Apple is the only one who doesn't use the data given that they've built up privacy as a selling point, MS and Google probably train their own models on it themselves.