> In any case, from this competition in LLMs, we win.

Do we really though? Everyone is wasting resources doing almost exactly the same thing. Climate loses, we lose.

Doing "almost exactly the same thing" is fubdamental to competition and capitalism. The ones doing it better will survive, that's how we improve.

About climate, I think you overplay it. China is already investing heavily in nuclear, and we should be doing the same.

	▲	culi 20 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Alibaba (who makes Kimi) and Moonshot AI (who makes Qwen) collaborate closely. Qwen relies on Alibaba's infrastructure for training. Look at your iPhone and you'll see all the greatest inventions have been born out of collaboration not competition: * GPS was created by the Department of Defense * the internet was created through the collaboration of many international research institutions * speech recognition came from MIT and DARPA * AI voice assistants were created by DARPA. Apple immediately hired the head of the program after it was finished to create Siri * accelerometers (MEMS) is another DARPA innovation from the 90s * touchscreens were invented by CERN * digital cameras came out of Bell Labs which had a government-mandated monopoly that required them to fund research like this * lithium-ion batteries were created through a collaboration between British, Japanese, and American organizations All of these have only become transformative technologies because they were created with public funding and released to the public. It's collaboration and public funding that drives innovation