> It's hard to say what their motivation is.

Not that hard to say IMO, they basically see models becoming a commodity and see value in the applications on top of them. So if Alibaba Cloud is the best place to build applications on top of Qwen, why not give the model itself away?

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SoftTalker a day ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.joelonsoftware.com/2002/06/12/strategy-letter-v/

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traceroute66 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> they basically see models becoming a commodity and see value in the applications on top of them.

Yeah. Its a bit like the "open core" model in open source.

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lerchmo a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also probably betting on their compute and energy capabilities.

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embedding-shape a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> Not that hard to say IMO,

Unless you work there, your opinions are guesses, and parent is saying we cannot know, which remains true even with your guesses :)

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Matl a day ago | parent | next [-]

> parent is saying we cannot know

And my point is while we cannot know, it's not hard to make an informed guess as to their motivations i.e. there's some fairly obvious motivations here, not sure what yours is?

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victorbjorklund a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Same can be said for every companies decisions then. Why does Antropic not open source their best models? My ”guess” is it’s because they are printing money with their closed models

	▲	Matl a day ago \| parent [-]
		Right and what other product does Anthropic really have besides?