I wasn't aware of the politics behind Ollama but I have noticed the lack of variety in quant versions, the lag between availability on Ollama, and their push to get you to use their cloud versions.

I'm going to uninstall Ollama.

I don't use local models often enough, but this convinced me to uninstall ollama. Now I need to figure out which of the options at the end of that post is the best alternative for me.

Yeah, they're trash.

Looks like it's their second time, as Kitematic was a very thin wrapper over the Docker CLI.

Came here to post an anti-ollama rant, real glad this is already the top comment. Nature is healing.

It's not my favorite but we do have to be aggressive in fighting these gross attempts for vc-backed silicon valley non-contributors to exploit open source labor.

Or, you know. Don't tell me what to do. One dirty hand washes another and many of llama.cpp's new features are straight copies of ollama functionality. You do you of course. But stop denying them their contribution to this ecosystem and stop denying me my agency to salve your politics.

Immediately thought of this article.

I've been very happy with vLLM as an alternative on the serving side, and OpenCode Go on the subscription side

If that's what I'd have to do to get $88 million, I don't want $88 million.

I see a lot of these "don't use [insert product]" posts and it's normally always BS about how some exec at the company has the wrong political views or upset some community who was the product by taking it in a different direction from what they wanted.

I think this is probably first time ever I read one of these and was convinced immediately that I should probably look into using something else.

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I wish HN would stop sharing drama-seeking posts, especially by anonymous authors, attacking the hard work of people.

Are ollama's authors perfect? No, they are just humans. But many people find their work valuable and we should support Open Source.

I can assure you that you won't like the world where nobody release Open Source projects anymore because of the constant negativity.

For anyone who may not be aware it exists: https://unsloth.ai/docs/new/studio

Unsloth has better quants, but when I tried their studio a couple months back it seemed like a buggy mess. Ollama seemed very basic but low-frustration.

Peter Fenton invested in the company when it was called Infra.App originally (I think it's still online: https://infra.app/). It was an access management product, then it became desktop Kubernetes product, both they pivoted out of. I imagine he invested based on the technical acumen of the founders and then worked with them to pivot when Ollama started working out. Almost all of the other investors invested in the founders based on that original idea space (which wasn't a great one but was quite adjacent.) I think that includes 8VC, YC, Pace Capital, GTMFund, who all followed on here.

Since it pivoted, I imagine the story they are telling is the usage. But you can add to that Peter Fenton has had incredible success in commercial open source (Docker-ish, Elastic, JBoss, CockroachDB, TimeScaleDB, and if you include Benchmark there is Elastic, Confluent, etc.) so a bunch of these people are probably trying to ride the Peter Fenton/Benchmark train. My guess is that's what Theory is doing.

Investors are not free but they are very hype driven. There are < 10 investors who are truly experts in open source in my opinion in the market (and maybe < 5.) It's a really wacky cadence and I would argue there are different types of OSS businesses, which makes it even more difficult to be an expert. It's something I struggle with personally investing in OSS -- I think I understand the likely motion for an OSS startup and then > 50% of the time I am wrong.

Why blame the investors? You went out of your way to even name them so we can bash them, why? Ollama founders sought them. Ollama founders wanted the money. Ollama founders took the money. Ollama founders took all the decisions that made people now dislike Ollama. Nobody forced their hands, it was their plan all along...

> $20 subscription is very generous, and they claim not to log or train on your data.

The principle of running locally is that you’re not in the cloud.

Already done. Here is information from the top comment: https://sleepingrobots.com/dreams/stop-using-ollama/

Would anybody here recommend LM Studio?