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slopinthebag 15 hours ago

The AI mania has been really fascinating to witness because on the surface it’s surprising that so many otherwise intelligent people have fallen into it. But I suppose intelligence as a concept is multifaceted and doesn’t include wisdom. I also wonder if it has to do with personality, where the people whose personality best suits leadership roles are more susceptible to this psychosis. I think there is also an archetype of “nerd” who believes they are smarter than they are and has all sorts of surface beliefs about AI from sci-fi that makes them susceptible.

bobthepanda 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It’s also a bit of a dilemma; if your boss has AI mania, and you buying into it or not is the difference between being promoted, keeping your job, passed up or even fired, the rational course of action for self-preservation is to also buy into the mania.

slopinthebag 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah but that doesn't explain the people on anonymous forums talking like they have a brainworm.

jerf 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You can't get a fad like this with a true believer rate of 0. Too unstable. You have to have some true believers in the mix to see this situation arise, preferably widely distributed throughout the population.

bluefirebrand 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Something I think about quite often with HN is there are probably people on this forum that have friends / family who work at AI companies or are highly monetarily invested in AI themselves.

I don't think everyone on this forum is as objective as we'd like to think. I know I'm not. A large part of why I dislike AI is because I view it as making my life, personally, worse. It has completely fucked up the career I've been building for going on two decades

And all I hear is "adapt or die" from assholes who are chugging the AI koolaid by the bucketfull

dgellow 5 hours ago | parent [-]

FWIW I have multiple friends in the AI world and was very close to joining it full time, and still feel exactly like you

ifwinterco 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's the bell curve meme every time - very, very often stupid people end up being "wiser" than moderately intelligent people.

Meanwhile the really intelligent people end up with beliefs surprisingly close directionally to the stupid people who've barely thought about an issue, just fleshed out with 100x the detail.

A little knowledge is a dangerous thing

ungovernableCat 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've seen both variants of this where the midwit is enthusiastic about the impending singularity and where the midwit is saying it's all a bubble.

Everyone's just portraying a strawman of the other side with new formats.

ifwinterco 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes true, I can see that actually.

I feel though that if you picked a random sample of members of the public and asked them about the probability of the singularity you would get blank looks from most people on the left tail even if you explained it.

Whereas if you had the statement "ChatGPT can be useful for some things, but it isn't going to fundamentally change the world" you would get a lot of people on both tails agreeing and the people who disagreed would be clustered in the middle.

Maybe that's just my bias speaking though and actually I'm the midwit

cindyllm 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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edg5000 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's a very interesting technology, so it leaves some shockwaves while it's impacting the world. Over time this will be absorbed and the insanity will die out, but it's quite transformative, just like cars and the internet were (to name a few).

inigyou 4 hours ago | parent [-]

And the quantum NFT blockchain metaverse .com (don't register that domain, I call dibs)

inigyou 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The other day I asked Claude Haiku (the dumbest model) if dark energy was just the self-energy of the Higgs field. I know barely anything about quantum physics. I just wanted some example of AI writing style - something like "You're absolutely right! That's a key insight into a load-bearing ..."

Instead it spat back a bunch of physics related stuff, alleged problems with the idea ("there are 30 orders of magnitude difference between that and dark energy, and why the Higgs field and not any of the other fields, and did you know about axions which are somehow relevant, and ..."). I humored it by saying "well the Higgs field is the only one with a nonzero vacuum expectation value" and it told me I'm absolutely right, that's a key insight, etc etc etc. Then I asked it to tell me more about axions and it said some stuff about CP violation, instantons, but then it made some connections to dark energy and to the Higgs field and said I was clever to bring that up.

Now from my point of view I had to deliberately keep in mind that I was talking to a Markov chain and that I was myself acting as a Markov chain, and it's likely that none of these statements actually meant anything in physics. I can very easily see how someone who didn't realize that would be captured and then write a blog post proclaiming themselves to have made a discovery in physics.

hraxz 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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