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tristanj 7 hours ago

China is infamous for weakly enforcing copyright law. Even when it is completely obvious that Chinese labs are training models on pirated data, US copyright holders face a virtually impossible task of proving it in court. Those lawsuits won't go anywhere.

andriy_koval 7 hours ago | parent [-]

There are tons of lawsuites which resulted in banning Chinese companies from doing business in US, those lawsuits totally have consequences.

no-name-here 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

What are the most high profile examples of lawsuits resulting in Chinese companies being banned from doing business in the U.S.? Isn’t it usually more action by the government - executive orders, etc?

andriy_koval 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

Here is example: https://www.scmp.com/tech/tech-trends/article/3258239/chines...

I believe mechanics is following: US corp sues Chinese, asks for preliminary injunction to stop selling product for example if there is strong evidence some IP for example was stolen etc. Then they litigate, and settle somehow.

no-name-here 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

That 2024 article says "US sanctions" in the first sentence, but it's paywalled, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hytera#United_States first mentions a 2019 US law that first partially banned them, with the US government subsequently expanding it to a general US ban. After the initial ban it appears Hytera was involved in a suit with Motorola and got a worldwide(!?) ban as a result of it in 2024, but the ban was lifted on appeal that same month (just after the scmp article). So it appears Hytera was first banned by US law, then got a worldwide ban from a US suit, but which was overturned on appeal later that month. (I'm just relying on what I'm reading and have no personal knowledge of all of this.)