Isn't literally every photograph taken with a modern iPhone technically an "AI-generated / AI-edited image"?

▲ estearum 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Given that this would be the first ever law with any degree of ambiguity ever created, we should create some type of like... room... maybe call it a "court"... where people could "judge" whether a person fell on the allowable or disallowable end of the spectrum

It's a groundbreaking idea but it might work. And who knows, maybe it's an innovation we could apply to other areas of law in case they also ever need to interact with any ambiguity (which hasn't happened yet, of course).

	▲	andrekandre 17 hours ago \| parent [-]
		`> some type of like... room... maybe call it a "court"... where people could "judge" whether a person fell on the allowable or disallowable end` it sounds a bit difficult to pull it off, but i'm all for it!

▲ mingus88 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

no, the photos you take with the lenses on your phone are not AI generated. They are generated from the sensors on your phone.

Have you seen some of these listings? We are talking about retaining walls invented where they can’t exist, work displayed that hasn’t occurred, etc. if you show up to a property and it’s materially different than the picture that got you there, that should be illegal.

If you want to make an argument that “everything is AI now” go for it. But I’m happy to see existing false advertising laws evolve as technology evolves

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culi 18 hours ago | parent | next [-]

iPhones use a variety of AI (though not LLM) techniques every time you take a photo. For example they use semantic segmentation where they recognize different aspects of a photo (faces, skies, skin tones, etc) and process them differently

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Gigachad 17 hours ago | parent [-]

They do a sort of automatic Lightroom edit playing with colors, shadows and masking. They do not invent things that do not exist.

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sssilver 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They absolutely do — see https://www.extremetech.com/mobile/samsung-galaxys-beloved-m...

	▲	Gigachad 15 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Android phones sure. The iPhone as far as I have seen has stayed away from gimmicks and AI. "Computational photography" is a long shot away from AI generated images. Everything in the iphone photo actually existed much the same as the photo shows, it's just exposure and color being messed with. If you use post editing tools like magic eraser and the new reframe / expand tools then that's a different story and shouldn't be allowed in real estate photography.

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culi 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah basically. They do not use generative AI or LLMs.

Unless you take into account their editing features that allow you to, for example, remove a human from an image

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CamperBob2 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not as simple a question as you make it sound: https://www.samsung.com/uk/support/mobile-devices/how-galaxy...

▲ paxys 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you take a photo of your apartment does your iPhone automatically make it twice the size, add modern renovations, paint the walls and add all new furnishings?

▲ outofpaper 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yep. Most phones are doing computational photography mining images creating things that never where quite there.

▲ nkrisc 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does your iPhone edit the image such that it’s substantially deceptive regarding the quality of the apartment to a reasonable person?

▲ mequetrefe 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How often would you say you prompt your camera to líe about you in a bid to rent yourself

	▲	georgeburdell 18 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Is that not analogous to putting up a facetuned image on a dating profile?

▲ Ar-Curunir 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yes clearly that is what is meant here.