| ▲ | geon 3 hours ago |
| Aren’t ms completely dependent on consumer windows for mindshare? I doubt anyone would bother getting into programming with ms tech unless they just happened to run it on their desktop. |
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| ▲ | ufmace 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I don't think they are anymore. The vast majority of ordinary person computer/internet use has already moved to smartphones, tablets, smart TVs and other such devices. It seems nowadays many people don't even know the basics about how to use a desktop operating system. |
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| ▲ | Aerroon an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I find this hard to believe considering how bad the UIs are on phones and TVs. Even google.com does not offer feature parity between their desktop and mobile websites. My phone still didn't come with a functional paint or notepad apps. Google docs is a horrible experience on phones (but at least it works now - a few years ago it was straight up unusable). And you're telling me that this is the only computing platform for a lot of people? How is everything still so unusable about it then? My experience tells me that everything mobile is basically an afterthought outside of a few dozen websites and I guess phone games. | | |
| ▲ | mrob a minute ago | parent | next [-] | | That fact that you're posting on a web forum makes you an outlier. Most people only passively consume, and mobile devices are good enough for that. | |
| ▲ | picofarad 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | My phone still doesn't have a calculator app. The thought of trying to add one that isnt wolfram alpha is anxiety-producing. |
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| ▲ | smelendez 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Right. Laptops are basically work (or school) tools now for a lot of people. They might have one tucked away that they pull out now and then when they need it, similar to a power drill or a sewing machine. It’s not a daily use device. I think it helped Microsoft historically that people used their operating systems at home, although even then a lot of people would have learned Windows at work or school first. | |
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| ▲ | eastbound 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| MS owns Typescript and NPM and Azure and LinkedIn. I know you meant programming on Windows, but even if Windows disappears, many of us will owe our job to Microsoft. |
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| ▲ | VorpalWay 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Dont forget they own github too. The vast majority of open source software is on there these days. Yes there are other options: gitlab.com, some project specific gitlab instances (freedesktop for example), forejo / codeberg, and the Linux kernel is off doing it's own thing with mailing lists instead. I even come across code on SourceForge every now and then still. But all of these are super niche. | |
| ▲ | solarkraft 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They own Typescript? I wasn’t aware that they control the organization, but that ought to be easy enough to fork. NPM is a bigger one, but also not too huge. Azure is only used by people who already have Microsoft/Windows buy-in. | | |
| ▲ | chuckadams an hour ago | parent [-] | | They created TypeScript, and maintain it now. It's not exactly a business for them, no one is buying "TypeScript Enterprise" subscriptions. It's all under the Apache License 2.0 and certainly big enough that if they started pulling anything untoward, it would see a fork. Sometimes Microsoft produces an unalloyed good, they're not a monolith. |
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| ▲ | SinkingRock 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | And VS Code, and Github... | | |
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