It is great timing in a way. There is a backlash with consoles and now more than ever the energy around AAA studios feels pretty low. You don't need incredible horsepower to play really fun games that still look visually appealing.

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ray_v 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

And the price is steep but in my opinion, you really do get a lot of value here - especially with the fact that you instantly pull a ton of your library in seamlessly. If you've been in this ecosystem for a while that's a huge selling-point - or, at least it was for me!

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infecto 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Agree. I suspect others who use steam are thinking the same thing.

When I heard the news for playstation my mind instantly jumped to silly digital prices for games forever. I look at the nintendo switch store and they will sell a digital copy for new retail price for years after even if you can pickup a used copy on ebay for half the price or less.

	▲	weakfish 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Yep. A large part of the value prop for me is easy portability of the same games and saves to couch or PC with zero effort or re-purchase.

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ZekeSulastin 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I never want to see HN complaining about Apple prices ever again now that I see multiple folks calling the Steam Machine a great value.

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amarant 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The steam machine handily beats apple in terms of dollar per TFLOP and dollar per GB memory. It's also easier to upgrade, making it likely to last longer.

Unified memory puts Apple in it's own category for certain workloads however, but since we're talking about gaming here, and not local LLMs, Apple simply cannot compete on any kind of value comparison

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doctorpangloss 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

A great value if you pirate games.

	▲	krzyk 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Great value if you buy games in steam sales, which are so common and deep that it leaves any console way back.

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somat 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah PC is sort of the "forever" console, I mean it's not strictly, there is always the upgrade grind, but new hardware tends to run old software fine(ish) and many(most if you play a lot of the smaller indie stuff) new games work fine on older hardware.

It is a huge mess compared to consoles but that is often the price of freedom and I am happy that at least one system escaped control of a single corporation.

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thewrinklyninja 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The Nintendo Switch was a great console for pointing that out as well. fun games on older mobile hardware even at the time it came out.