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m463 3 hours ago

Do macs really have GPUs though? Or are they like intel integrated graphics?

wtallis 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You might want to not only re-evaluate what you consider a real GPU, but also take a look at what the latest Intel integrated graphics is capable of (Panther Lake laptop chips with 12-core GPU chiplet fabbed by TSMC). Intel is still way behind NVIDIA and AMD in the discrete graphics card market, and their drivers don't have the decades of accumulated hacks to work around badly-written games, but their good iGPUs aren't a nightmare of incompatibility and missing features like they were 15 years ago.

numpad0 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

People say they think it's faster than top of the line RTX 3070[1] and hands down the fastest GPU ever for local LLM purposes, and OTOH they're like Intel integrated graphics with RAM shared VRAM for ultra thin laptops, so the truth is either of that, or somewhere between those two. Probably wherever its TDP suggests.

1: (Laptop)

SXX an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Apple integrated graphics is quite good. Software is the problem.

lalaithion 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes they have GPUs.

zer0zzz an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is not the greatest question because it makes it seem that you think unified gpu+cpu socs are all like intel graphics.

weikju 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

An on-board GPU is not a GPU?

Y-bar an hour ago | parent [-]

It’s only a GPU if it’s made in the RTX region of Silicon Valley, otherwise it’s just sparkling floating point calculations.