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rblatz a day ago

Default judgement, absolutely meaningless at this point as to how a court would rule against a plaintiff that actually showed up, respected the court’s authority, and defended itself.

walrus01 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Why should a Netherlands based company that publishes content on the internet entirely outside of this state's borders and jurisdiction be required to show up or respect its authority? By this logic if I'm sued in Turkey for publishing content on my web server hosted in California insulting Erdogan, I should have to go show up and defend myself in some kangaroo court.

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fwip a day ago | parent | prev [-]

If you want to keep the domain name you got from a TLD that they control, yes.

Or did you mean, like, morally?

walrus01 a day ago | parent [-]

But does a US State control a TLD, really? Is that even something that's within the legitimate legal power of an individual state? Previous .com seizures have been done at the federal court level. The federal government reserves the authority to regulate all inter-state commerce. The entire history of how the .com TLD is run by Verisign is federal government related.

Doing this at the state court level is as nonsensical as an individual state deciding it doesn't like a law or regulation that's part of the jurisdiction of the FAA or FCC, and wants to do its own unique weird local thing.

crossroadsguy a day ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t like it. But since when US or US entities have been doing things affecting rest of the globe that they can “legally” do or they “should” do? With US - they do things because they “can” do things. And now so does China and to some extent Russia.

And why even a “US federal” court should have such arbitrary and sweeping authority that affects other countries’ businesses and people? The world should realise that “.com” is a US domain in technicality and spirit both (like many other domains)

This is one of the extremely broken aspect of “The Internet”. Large part of it is literally controlled by US with zero oversight or shared authority.

PS. Look at how India recently moved all bank domains to https://<bank name>.bank.in. And I usually don’t agree with my Govt (and for good reason) but this is a proper sovereignty move.

(Oh by the way ICANN is “still” in the US)

calvinmorrison a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any state can issue a warrant and extradite Americans from any other state. Something to do with catching runaway slaves. It's gonna catch up with us when California starts charging me with a crime for something about age verification or when Texas tries to extradite abortionists

walrus01 a day ago | parent [-]

Individual states have already been attempting to extradite people from other states for the crime of mailing early term abortion medication across state lines, for example:

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=US+state+...

calvinmorrison 16 hours ago | parent [-]

seems like we have a problem sir

fwip 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I agree that it's nonsense. Maybe this will be a wakeup call that the US cannot be assumed to be a responsible steward.

throwatdem12311 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So if I don’t do business in Texas, have no operations in Texas or otherwise deal with Texas in any way a state court should just be able to order a company to suspend my whole domain?

I’m Canadian and Texas courts have zero authority over me so they can f*ck off.

jzb a day ago | parent | next [-]

But they do have authority over the domain registrar, so you’re vulnerable there no matter where you live.

I don’t agree with the premise of age verification, but of course a prosecutor would go after the assets they can reach if enforcing local laws. They’ve done this for years when it comes to copyright infringement.

walrus01 a day ago | parent | next [-]

It's a huge overreach to say that any individual US state has authority over a domain registrar, and even more specifically over .COM as a TLD, given its history with VeriSign and the US federal government.

There exists a well defined process, precedent and prior case law in US federal court to seize a .COM domain name by a court order issued to VeriSign. Doing this at the state level is entirely new.

fc417fc802 a day ago | parent [-]

Well that's an interesting question. Where is the owner of .com headquartered? Because presumably that state's courts do have jurisdiction. Which if you stop and think about it is entirely arbitrary and really drives home what a poor system ICANN DNS is on a fundamental level.

walrus01 a day ago | parent [-]

Verisign is headquartered in Reston, VA

throwatdem12311 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Verisign is HQ’d in Virginia and motherless is in the Netherlands. It is absolutey absurd that a state court in Texas should be able to order the complete suspension of this domain. At best they should be able order ISPs to block it in Texas.

mcphage a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> But they do have authority over the domain registrar

Why do you say that?

downrightmike a day ago | parent | prev [-]

They do not

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trhway a day ago | parent | prev [-]

That is the strategy - you start with the easy cases - somebody who wouldn’t or couldn’t defend themselves and who is “bad” in public perception.