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binyu 3 hours ago

The market just redistributes wealth from less informed players to more sophisticated/informed ones.

kibwen 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I wouldn't quite go that far. The fact that markets can remain irrational longer than participants can remain solvent means that participants with deeper pockets have an inherent advantage, even if they have less information. How quickly a random walk will take you to zero depends on how far above the baseline you start.

binyu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> participants with deeper pockets have an inherent advantage

I do think they have deeper pockets because they are more informed/sophisticated players, so the whole argument is kind of circular.

compiler-guy 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

If I inherit a billion dollars tomorrow, I will have zero additional information and be no more sophisticated than I am today. But I will have deeper pockets than any retail investor and will be able to withstand market irrationality longer than them.

binyu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If you are completely ignorant about markets, deep pocketed and inclined to risk, chances are you are going to lose it all.

compiler-guy 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Indeed. But that doesn't invalidate the point that deeper-pockets is not equivalent to a more sophisticated or better investor.

binyu an hour ago | parent [-]

Someone who inherits a fortune and trades it on the stock market is an extremely unlikely circumstance.

compiler-guy an hour ago | parent [-]

But we aren’t talking probability. Your claim was that deeper pockets means you are more sophisticated. That simply isn’t true. The inheritance argument is just one example to show why it isn’t. People make large amounts of money all the time in one field or another, but that doesn’t make them sophisticated investors.

binyu 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

> Your claim was that deeper pockets means you are more sophisticated.

Completely wrong, my claim is that people who have deeper pockets they do so for a reason.

compiler-guy 23 minutes ago | parent [-]

And I gave a reason why that isn't true. There are many, many others.

kibwen 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Not sure if you've seen the price of silver, but those spoons are going for a pretty penny these days.