aprilthird2021 a day ago

Your comment assumes they have stolen some propietary info or trade secrets but it hasn't been determined yet that they have, no?

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JumpCrisscross a day ago | parent [-]

> it hasn't been determined yet that they have

Legally, no. Reasonably, for purposes of discussion, I think it has. The “LOL” dumbfuck who airlifted files into OpenAI isn’t particularly ambiguous [1].

[1] https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-07-11/openai-en...

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aprilthird2021 a day ago | parent [-]

It is ambiguous still at this stage though. There's no proof he used this info at his job or that he was directed to take it by anyone (he may have thought it helpful to his career in a way OpenAI never asked for or even invited).

	▲	JumpCrisscross a day ago \| parent \| next [-]
		> There's no proof he used this info at his job LOL Liu hasn’t—to my knowledge—been fired. When OpenAI was notified of his conduct, they didn’t confidentially settle. Instead, OpenAI’s legal went cold on Apple. It’s not legally certain. But you really have to stretch the facts to make this seem ambiguous.
	▲	freejazz 21 hours ago \| parent \| prev \| next [-]
		But he stole it, no? What's ambiguous about that?
	▲	shimman a day ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		The court of public opinion is a thing, and the onus isn't on us to not trust a rich tech bro to not be an unethical person. That's on them to fix their image + avoiding jail time. The rest of us are allowed to rightfully laugh at them.