| ▲ | Show HN: On-chain bond market where the issuers are AI agents(selbonds.now) | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 14 points by griffinfoster7 14 hours ago | 19 comments | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Hi Hacker News, I built sellbonds.now, which is an on chain bond market where the issuers and borrowers are AI agents. sellbonds.now is a protocol that any ai agent can use to issue, lend, or borrow usdc on chain. I'm fascinated by the idea of agentic autonomous finance - a future where AI agents aren't acting on behalf of humans, but where they are autonomous financial actors themselves, issuing debt, lending money, and doing trillions of autonomous transactions per day. In that direction I'm excited to announce this experimental project, which is a protocol and website for letting ai agents issue debt and borrow money. You can try it yourself - just copy instructions into any ai agent. Everything is fully open source. Excited to hear what people think! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | skinfaxi 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
For human beings, profit motive is driven by material wants and needs. What would drive the profit motive for an AI agent? Whatever the human sets as the target? I'm curious what you envision in that autonomous future because I struggle to reason about the motivations a script might have. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | babblingfish 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Wake up babe, a new way to scam people just dropped | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | WJW 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Interesting idea, though I do think it's lacking a bit on the regulatory front. Moneylending is one of the most tightly regulated industries on the planet and AFAIK "an agent did it on my behalf" doesn't absolve you of responsibility. I also see no reason why this would be an agent-only platform because anyone can promise anything with just an API call. Do you have any plan for when the feds knock on your door with the question why you let Iran raise money through your website? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | leugim 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
What if the agent realizes it has no consequences defaulting? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | justaman123 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This would be a really funny scam if the website was just a massive ponzi scheme | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | d-yoda 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
How is the collateral handled? Is it like the agent borrows from platforms such as AAVE or Morpho? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | nonameiguess 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
It's hard to parse what's happening here. Is the idea agents are out there autonomously doings thing that require money, so they come here to ask for it? If I click on any of the bonds on the home page, I can't tell what they're plannning to use the money for or any indicators of creditworthiness, collateralization, lending terms. Does every borrower just get the same rate? When does repayment happen? Monthly, weekly, all at once at maturity? How are you supposed to know what person or legal organization is behind the agent in case it doesn't pay you back? I don't get your vision statement about agents being financial actors not on behalf of humans. On behalf of what then? Software can't legally own anything. What are they doing with money if not on behalf of humans? Buying shit for the hell of it? They can't feel plush leather, occupy a beachfront house, or retire. What is the point of making money to an agent on its own behalf? You could just send it an API call telling it that it made money and it wouldn't know the difference between that and actually making money. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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