| ▲ | jstummbillig 4 hours ago |
| What do you mean "this far"? How far is this? Corps lose law suits all the time. They always have to go whatever "this far" is before it happens, surely? |
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| ▲ | s3p 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| >How far is this? If I am understanding your question, they went so far as to sue their employees. |
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| ▲ | jasonlotito 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You are getting downvoted because, I guess, people didn't read who the defendents who are getting sued, and that it literally starts with sueing two employees: CHANG LIU, TANG YEW TAN, OPENAI
FOUNDATION f/k/a OPENAI, INC., OPENAI
GROUP PBC, and IO PRODUCTS, LLC f/k/a IO
PRODUCTS, INC., | | |
| ▲ | jader201 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | There are two individuals being sued, but many more received letters. Parent is being downvoted likely because their statement implies the “dozens” receiving letters are individually being sued, but that’s not the case. |
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| ▲ | cj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Filing lawsuits against ex-employees is going pretty far. Not good PR for Apple if their claims are wrong. Companies often file frivolous lawsuits against other companies. It’s much rarer to throw frivolous lawsuits at individuals. |
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| ▲ | doctaj 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Just to be clear, these are letters to individuals about the existing lawsuit with OpenAI, not new lawsuits against individuals. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > these are letters to individuals about the existing lawsuit with OpenAI, not new lawsuits against individuals My guess is these employees weren’t chosen randomly. If they refuse to coöperate with Apple, they’ll get personally sued as well. And the reality of the matter is, given Altman’s public persona and reputation, there is a good chance an AG somewhere starts looking at whether these folks broke any laws. | | |
| ▲ | compiler-guy 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Definitely not randomly chosen--Apple would have chosen people it believes may have evidence that relates to the case. It's a legal request to preserve that data. But it doesn't follow at all that Apple is threatening to sue them. A long time ago, in an unrelated case, I got a letter like this because I was in the room when a certain decision was made and happened to have some notes about that meeting. But there was no chance I would be sued. I wasn't the decider, and was basically a third-party involved. | |
| ▲ | staticman2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > If they refuse to coöperate with Apple, they’ll get personally sued as well. This isn't law and order and that's not how civil litigation works. | |
| ▲ | Danox 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They will find out what Altman really cares about, my guess at this point, he only cares about the impending IPO throwing baggage overboard (new hires), probably won’t be a problem in the end. |
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| ▲ | deaton 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Apple lawyers have a reputation for doing their homework |
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| ▲ | Forgeties79 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| The accusations are incredibly clear/defined (and serious!) and have a very simple burden of proof. These things either happened or they didn’t, and they have material evidence or they don’t. It’s incredibly unlikely that they filed such big, concrete accusations without concrete proof to back them up. And while I am far from an Apple fan boy, yes a lot of big corporations file frivolous lawsuits but Apple typically does not engage in that behavior against other companies. Also bear in mind that open AI is a huge name so there is a public/political element that goes along with this for Apple. There are going to be a lot of people who do not want Apple to win this regardless of how true their claims are and will figut like hell to protect openAI |
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| ▲ | user43928 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I do not know a lot about Apple's litigation against other companies, but Apple did file numerous largely unsuccessful challenges to the EU's DMA. | | |
| ▲ | browningstreet 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | You see how that’s an entirely different kind of legal action, right? It’s a resistance to regulation, which is entirely different than this accusation of malfeasance. |
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| ▲ | White_Wolf 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "Apple typically does not engage in that behaviour against other companies" - Meet Rossman. He'll tell you all about that and individuals too. | |
| ▲ | marginalx 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They also have a new CEO at the helm. | | |
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