| ▲ | GJim 9 hours ago | |||||||
> If you’re looking at win vs loss you also need to look at what you got in return for what you gave. This. Russia is suffering over 400 casualties for every square km (1036 per square mile!) of territory captured in Donetsk, screwing their own economy and turning themselves into a pariah. Russia certainly isn't winning. https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian... | ||||||||
| ▲ | fsuts 4 hours ago | parent [-] | |||||||
Ukraine taking on rounds after rounds of multi billion euro loans also isn’t winning… They need a peace deal but external parties don’t want Ukraine to do this. The same ones lending the money | ||||||||
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