| ▲ | anon7000 an hour ago | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
Tangent: philosophically to me, art is inherently human. What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. It’s the story of the artist, the context of the art itself, the hard work and struggle involved, the meaning represented by a human creating something very specific to their own personal context and taste. Or a mix of any of that. Can AI be used as a tool to help create art? Absolutely. But as a rule, I do not give any shits about AI generated content like this. It’s not art. It’s not human. And the line is really how much meaning and effort _a human_ is putting into it. If a human spends a minute or two prompting AI and then tweaking The result, and peddling it as their own art… get outta here. You made some content. That’s easy, and no one should cares. Content can already be shoveled out faster than we can watch it with or without AI. Meaningful art is not mass-produced, generated content. I realize art is completely subjective, so some person may find meaning in AI generated art. That’s fine, and that’s part of what could make that art. (Like an original way of presenting something that really resonates with someone.) But this garbage ain’t that. And I realize this is just a capability test, but plenty of places will see this as cheap and good enough. But it ain’t art, and we should push back against another cost-cutting measure that does nothing to make the world better. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | interroboink an hour ago | parent | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> Meaningful art is not mass-produced, generated content. Andy Warhol might disagree [1] (: (I realize that's not exactly apples-to-apples, but y'know.) Or there's "art is anything you can get away with," which I just mention to point out that this kind of issue ("what is art?") is not new. In some ways it seems like a good thing to get people, like you, riled up about these topics, arguing the merits of their point of view. That's how culture happens. It's an interesting question you tangle with: is it art because of what the artist did, or is it art because of how the viewer/listener/etc receives it? Some of both? How much of each? If you encountered some art but you didn't know its provenance, and it had some emotional impact on you, would it still be art if you found out later it was 100% AI generated? Like you say, it's all subjective, but it's nice to see random people on the internet talking about the nature of art, since it's something I care about too. So in other words, thank you for being angry (: [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Campbell%27s_Soup_Cans "... what Time magazine called the 'Slice of Cake School'—artists who treated the banal artifacts of contemporary civilization as legitimate subjects for high art" | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | beambot 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
> What makes art meaningful and impactful isn’t whether it looks good or cool. I fall on the other side of that coin: I care about the final output way more than the story & struggle of the artist. Also: Nature is probably the most epic artist in my book - a sunset, leaf, coral or rock can outshine virtually any human creation. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | rileymat2 41 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
GPTs were inherently trained on human text. It would not surprise me if mixing all this together by AI touches the people of today with the feelings of today more than a biased singular person. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ▲ | eru an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
All of this can be said about photography, too. And, yes, most photography ain't art, or at least not meaningful art. Just like most of my attempts at drawing ain't meaningful art either. Btw, by your high standards most human produced music videos ain't art either. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potboiler | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| ▲ | esikich 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
This is a demo. It's like taking the first shitty picture or making the first shit sounding "analog electronic instrument" played by the guy who doesn't know how to play music but is an electronic savant. It's the concept that matters, not this specific execution of it. | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||