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hparadiz 2 days ago

Auto manufacturers need to realize that one bad software experience means lost sales of entire cars. Fail to provide a good experience at the cost of your brand for years to come.

loveiswork 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

We just sold our 2025 Subaru Outback specifically because the software experience was bad.

To exit a climate control modal on the screen you have to find and tap a tiny red "X" box in the furthest corner of the screen from the steering wheel.

olyjohn 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

God... Subaru's whole interface is a horrific looking clusterfuck. That big-ass screen and it's just a huge waste.

I've driven the 2025 and the 2024. The 2024 not only had all the crappy UI, but the driver assistance features were also alerting you constantly, and they were terrible. I was amazed how much they toned it back and improved it with the 2025.

Still wouldn't buy either of them personally. The constant nags and alerts are so fucking annoying and distracting. The seat belt chimes that don't shut off and get louder and louder make me want to rage so hard. I am religious about wearing my seatbelt, so there's absolutely no reason for it to piss me off so bad.

nicholasjarnold 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cathartic to read this! Just had a very similar experience with a Subaru from the same generation as yours.

While that particular issue isn't solvable, I am open to any advice on coding tools that might allow one to unlock other settings or make changes like "ensure auto-stop is fully disabled across restarts and drivers".

hluska 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have a lot of trouble understanding how Subaru dashes turned into the modern monstrosity they are. They were very functional and well laid out for years. Now, geez, I’d need to be an octopus to drive a Subaru.

glitchc 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That's an absolutely disastrous UI choice!

crimsonnoodle58 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I despise our Outback's climate settings. It seems every time I start the car it picks a random temperature to set each side to. It'll be 30 deg outside and you look down wondering why its getting hotter and the car is set to 30 deg inside.

mindfulmark 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Last year I was trying out cars for a new purchase and was excited to try out the Subaru Outback. After one drive I decided I would never buy a Subaru because of their software. Lots of annoying noises, ugly, and no physical buttons. It was terrible.

ryandrake 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Auto manufacturers just don't know how to do software. They don't understand it. They treat it like just another line item on the BOM: Like a bolt or a gasket. Source it from the cheapest provider, give them checkbox requirements, and then spoon it into the car on the assembly line somewhere. They don't think of it as an ecosystem to build off of, or as something to make beautiful to compete with other car makers. It's just another costly assembly that they bolt onto the car and forget about.

Alien1Being 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Buy Chinese cars instead.

They are far better.

BYD reliability and support leaves European cars for dead.