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inigyou an hour ago

Why wouldn't they?

gpm an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Because the legal system does, in fact, have teeth. And those teeth actually deploy pretty readily. Especially when the people whose trade secrets you would be violating are gargantuan companies with enough resources that the cost of a lawsuit is a rounding error.

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inigyou 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

First it has to discover a violation.

gpm 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah but a disgruntled employee would talk sooner or later.

processunknown 7 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pay to play teeth

gpm 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

To an extent, though for significant (in monetary terms) violations of the law the teeth tend to pay for themselves (but do so by not fully compensating the people whose behalf they are supposedly acting on).

More problematically there are camouflaged sharp spines pointed primarily in the direction of poorer people, and people not advised by lawyers.

But none of that matters here when the damaged parties include the megacorps of the world.

theplumber 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

no it doesn't. If it would have teeth they would not resell copyright data. They will be busted like Kim DotCom

gpm 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

No AI company has been reselling copyright data to my knowledge, it would be truly bizarre if they did that.

What they have been doing, with some narrow exceptions where they have lost billions of dollars in court cases*, is not at all obviously prohibited by copyright law. Neither web scraping (i.e. asking for copies of data from people you have every reason to believe are authorized to give you copies) or running algorithms on copyrighted data are generally copyright infringment. I say generally because the "algorithm" of "ctrl-c ctrl-v" is obviously an exception, and there's some argument that training is similar enough to be illegal - a fairly weak argument that is mostly losing in court but has some tiny chance of still succeeding.

The law doesn't have teeth to prohibit things not prohibited under the law - no matter how much many people would like them to be prohibited. This shouldn't be surprising.

Unlike with copyright, the law does pretty clearly prohibit violating contractual terms to not hang onto or use other peoples data for purposes other than the narrow ones laid out in the contract when you agreed to the contract.

* Namely acquiring copies of data from people who they know aren't authorized to make copies - i.e. torrenting.

ghshephard an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Because the value obtained from doing so is unlikely to exceed the cost of the lawsuits if they were ever caught doing so.