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anon7000 a day ago

At the end of the day, it’s surprising there’s not a national ID database. I mean it practically already exists (social security). The government will have systems to identify its systems.

The real problem is that these systems exist, but:

It’s a horrible experience for the citizens. Your SSN is deeply insecure, used as a username/identification AND a PIN code or password, and is a tiny piece of paper that can easily crumble. On top of that, you have like a bajillion different forms of ID, and it’s frequently unclear who requires what. A “driver’s” license for CARS is the most commonly used identification for practically everything, a passport costs money and isn’t that easy to get… you move two miles to a different state and everything has to change.

We’re getting all of the privacy cons and none of the benefits. Let’s at least get the benefits.

And also, it could totally be cryptographically more secure and private if we wanted. Like scanning to verify age being able to track your name/address.

But in my view, citizens should get a proper ID card at birth that just covers everything. Instead of the current half assed system which has ALL of the same negatives.

satvikpendem a day ago | parent | next [-]

Estonia has a good system, a national ID system that nevertheless is cryptographically secure such that you can't steal someone's identity.

xingped a day ago | parent [-]

How does a National ID system being "cryptographically secure" prevent someone from stealing your identity?

satvikpendem 21 hours ago | parent [-]

In the US if someone has your social security number they can do a lot of things with it. This is not the case in Estonia where they have public key cryptography so even leaking a public key doesn't mean anything. They'd need the physical ID with the chip on it as well as the password and PIN to access anything which is exponentially harder.

popalchemist a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Decentralization has the benefit of minimizing the possibility of a tyrannical federal government, by design.

This is a step in the wrong direction, at a time when the tyranny is no longer hypothetical.

satvikpendem 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Estonia's national ID system is decentralized via the X-Road system, no one entity can see all your records in one place. For example health records live in one database, police in another etc. It is also difficult to cross correlate or to erase history due to Estonia also using a blockchain.

EduardoBautista 21 hours ago | parent [-]

How does the blockchain make correlation difficult?

satvikpendem 16 hours ago | parent [-]

Erase history, not cross correlate