> Lots of organizations are continuing to refuse to use chinese models due to security and IP concerns

This is such a common omission: the Chinese models are open, you can host them yourself on your premises. So privacy and independence.

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spongebobstoes 2 hours ago | parent [-]

it's well documented that models can be adversarially trained with essentially backdoors in response to special inputs

while I am skeptical that this is happening atm, there are probably many industries where the risk does not seem worthwhile

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anon373839 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I suppose this is like when Anthropic was using “prompt modification, steering vectors, or parameter-efficient fine-tuning” to poison the work of people working in the LLM field, including academic researchers.

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Giefo6ah an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

When the model is open weights you can even pass every token (including the chain of thought) though a fourth-party lightweight model like gpt-oss-safeguard to check that it has not become adversarial.

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selectodude 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I feel like that's a threat that isn't super difficult to block. Unplug it from the internet, require it to go through an API intermediary to access web pages.

Maybe I just don't have any imagination.

	▲	jfim 21 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		It could generate code that's plausible but has intentional flaws, kind of like the defunct underhanded C contest [0], except through a LLM. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Underhanded_C_Contest

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