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chuckadams 7 hours ago

It's almost as if the market is returning a verdict on Elon's unilateral decision to burn barrels of company cash on xAI.

M3L0NM4N 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I would argue the current price action isn't even driven by any company decisions. The stock needs to settle for a while after IPO.

AviationAtom 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anyone that thinks Musk approaches anything for short-term results doesn't understand Musk.

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klaff 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't think Musk understands Musk.

sneurlax 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

anything nonhuman*

mjhay 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It must be some 5-dimensional chess he’s playing, it couldn’t be that he’s just an edgelord Nazi whose brain has been liquefied by ketamine abuse

dofm 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Someone who really understood long term results wouldn’t keep repeatedly promoting absurdly short timescales for major developments.

He has a malignant narcissist’s distorted grasp of time: any future he promises is always nearer than is plausible, but the past is never finalised.

CamperBob2 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What's the long game behind alienating well over half of Tesla's customer base by throwing Nazi salutes? How does that pay off in the end?

s1artibartfast 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Under this analysis, what was the short term motive? How does that pay off?

CamperBob2 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Ingratiating himself with Trump, I imagine. It certainly paid off in the short term, since he was given a golden ticket to sack the government.

A lot of tech execs successfully brown-nosed Trump, which (unfortunately) is understandable to some extent given what was at stake with his tariffs and other assorted threats. But Musk is the only one who evidently enjoyed it.

Rover222 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

it's so weird and kinda disturbing how many people really believe that was a Nazi salute. It's so easy shape public opinion with media and algorithms.

Same thing happening with "datacenters will destory the world because of their water use" BS

dofm 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It was plainly obviously fascist signalling, whether trolling, joking or serious. Nazi? The detail doesn’t matter. But he knew what that looked like and he did it deliberately. It’s just not really plausible to pretend that he he wouldn’t have known what it looked like.

chuckadams 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I personally think he really is a fascist, but I still don't think he was deliberately throwing out a Nazi salute. Just naive about waving to a crowd in front of a camera, which is very on-brand for him.

CamperBob2 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

See the .gifs I posted below. There is no way to spin that as naivete.

dofm 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

He's naïve about many things but I don't believe any of these people are ignorant of fascist imagery or its trollish power, even if only in some bullshit recycled bad-sci-fi trope sense.

He may be more ignorant than he portrays but he is a malignant narcissist — guys like him don't even think fascism is a bad idea.

Rover222 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is so ridiculous, IMO. you can find Mamdami and AOC doing the exact same pose. Doesn't mean anything, it's a natural gesture when addressing a large crowd.

dofm 5 hours ago | parent [-]

The pose, as a static image, looks a little bit like someone waving their whole arm to a large crowd.

The video, by contrast, shows a man deliberately engaging in fascist salute gestures:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VfYjPzj1Xw

Pretending otherwise, that is ridiculous.

chuckadams an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Yikes. I initially saw a different photo that looked a lot more like it could have been waving, but yeah, that's just blatant.

Rover222 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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Larrikin 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It was a Nazi salute.

Rover222 5 hours ago | parent [-]

So ironic the far left (which is the majority of democrats now) thinks Musk is a Nazi, while they're the pro-Hamas party.

CamperBob2 4 hours ago | parent [-]

It was a Nazi salute. You can't spin this, so stop trying.

https://i.imgur.com/MF2aEM3.gif[/

https://preview.redd.it/1jwoo9q7goee1.gif?width=410&format=m...

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