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German AI consortium releases Soofi S, an open 30B model that tops benchmarks(the-decoder.com)
60 points by amai 2 hours ago | 9 comments
jbellis 36 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It tops benchmarks because it uses them in its training data. https://x.com/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919

sva_ 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

https://nitter.net/eliebakouch/status/2077425801633427919

That is very disappointing.

sajithdilshan 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Disappointing. Sounds like Volkswagen 2.0

mft_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Great to see more competition in this space, and especially from Europe, but... it's a shame when the benchmarks don't include the current best comparable models. They shows results against Qwen 3.5 and Gemma 3, but Qwen 3.6 and Gemma 4 have been available for ~three months.

beklein 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Some other (as in better) sources I found:

- https://huggingface.co/spaces/Soofi-Project/Pretraining-Tech...

- https://arxiv.org/pdf/2607.09424

k__ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Fully open source model" with "Long-term, license-free availability for industry"

Nice trick to be not comparable with most other LLMs on the market, open weight or proprietary.

But I think, that's the right way.

throwa356262 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think this news is more about the infrastructure than the model.

Either way, happy to see two open models from outside the us-cn duopoly in the same week.

sajithdilshan 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Better late than never. Germans have entered the chat

petcat 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

More like Nemotron 3 with benchmaxxing enabled has (re-)entered the chat.