Ruining concrete seems to go against extinction rebellion main goal. According to the World Economic Forum the co2 released during ciment production account for 8% of global co2 emissions, datancenter are estimated to contribute between 1 and 2 percent....

Math is not theirs forte!

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afandian 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I imagine their maths is fine. Their objective is to tackle climate change through raising awareness. That happens at the macro scale.

	▲	holbrad 3 hours ago \| parent \| next [-]
		Ah yes, the majority of people obviously don't know about climate change! It's far grimmer to realise that people know, they just don't think we have an acceptable answer yet. I'm not willing to accept any climate action, if it means I can't go on holiday abroad or it makes my life meaningfully more expensive etc. It's selfish, but we need to solve it in a way that makes people globally richer. (This is one of the great things about renewables coming down in price)
	▲	readthenotes1 3 hours ago \| parent \| prev [-]
		You think they did math on this? No, all he did was have a tantrum where they got attention to themselves and patted themselves on the bat for doing something. They didn't think through the ecological results of someone scraping off the destroyed concrete and pouring more.

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inigyou 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well they didn't ruin a batch of cement at a cement plant did they? They ruined a datacenter construction project, specifically.

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readthenotes1 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Did the Data Center get canceled? If not, then no it is not ruined and instead what's going to happen? Is someone's going to scrape up a whole bunch of that concrete releasing a whole bunch of carbon dioxide and then someone's going to pour down some more concrete which will increase the CO2 in the atmosphere.

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skeaker 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This would still pollute less than the usage of the center. You're underestimating how much energy they use once active.

	▲	nick__m 6 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		You are underestimating how much co2 is released during ciment production and overestimating what is released by powering datancenters. In 2024, datancenter have consumed 1% of the total worldwide electricity production and are responsible for 0.5% of the co2 emissions.¹ 1- https://www.carbonbrief.org/ai-five-charts-that-put-data-cen...

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inigyou 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So basically you think burning down an oil company HQ increases climate change?

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card_zero an hour ago | parent [-]

That sounds likely to be true. They'll move operations to a temporary building while they build a new one. To some extent their ability to make plans will be disrupted, but the effect those plans would have had on the climate is unknown: the result is just that the oil company behaves in a more stupid and poorly-planned way, while doing some extra construction.

	▲	inigyou 12 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		What if every time the oil company got a new HQ, it burned down? Would that increase or decrease climate change?