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▲ paxys 5 hours ago

> its overall intelligence ranks second only to Claude Fable 5 and GPT-5.6 Sol

Pretty sure ranking “second” to two others means ranking third.

▲antonyt 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Charitably, you could read this as "its overall intelligence [is in a class that] ranks second only to [that of]..."

▲ignoramous 3 hours ago | parent [-]

This is actually what's meant but this bikeshed has been built for yak shaving.

▲ekojs 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, bad wording it seems. Though a charitable interpretation is that Fable 5 and GPT 5.6 Sol are joint 1st place in the measurement.

▲paxys 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Doesn’t matter, the next one is still third.

▲cheesecakegood 4 hours ago | parent [-]

DENSE_RANK() vs RANK() claims another victim

▲jnwatson 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If there are two folks standing at gold, nobody gets the silver medal.

▲worldthruword 5 hours ago | parent [-]

But linearizing an equal magnitude quantities by alphabet priority would be unfair. Magnitude is the important quantity here.

▲jatora 4 hours ago | parent [-]

"Ranks second" is their statement. What is it's rank, in your opinion?

▲novaleaf 2 hours ago | parent [-]

frontier vs "not quite" :D

▲vl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While you are technically correct, in English it’s perfectly fine to say it this way as well.

“Second only” here has meaning “next after”, not “number two”.

▲__mharrison__ 3 hours ago | parent [-]

So... France took second to England and Argentina?

▲vl 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

France’s football team is second only to England’s and Argentina’s.

It’s a miracle that in language same words have different meanings depending on context. If this wouldn’t be the case we could have hardcoded NLP algorithmically without inventing these expensive LLMs!

▲make3 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Second group essentially is how you have to think of it

▲krackers 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Not if the others tie for first place.

▲Calazon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Still third even then.

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▲scotty79 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Which is still great because it means neither of the two best financed labs in the world manage to produce even two models themselves that would beat Kimi K3.