the US and china are basically the same size geographically though? and the US federally owns tons of land it can create manufacturing cities out of

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traceroute66 a day ago | parent [-]

> and the US federally owns tons of land it can create manufacturing cities out of

Ok, being generous and accepting your point at face value ....

What about the people staffing those manufacturing cities ? Is the state creating them too ?

I seem to recall reading somewhere that – at most – the US could "find" 200,000 people for new manufacturing plants.

Sounds about right to me, no ?

I think even with a generous mind the US would struggle to "find" much more than that, let alone getting to or exceeding 1 million which is the value you would need for seriously thinking about >1 manufacturing city.

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nradov a day ago | parent | next [-]

The US labor force participation rate is currently at a relatively low level. There is plenty of surplus labor available with the right economic incentives.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

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cliglot a day ago | parent | next [-]

> There is plenty of surplus labor available with the right economic incentives.

Instead the “Economic incentives” go to the Chinese owners who then learn that Americans are not interested in working in a sweatshop and instead rely on third parties to supply them with illegal workers and engage in white collar crime.

I’m suspicious of “re-industrialization” pushes because everywhere I’ve ever lived it’s resulted in at best a foreign company given massive tax breaks to create a few hundred low paid button pusher jobs and maybe a handful of better paying technician jobs.

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gruez a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Isn't that just due to people retiring?

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS11300060

	▲	nradov a day ago \| parent [-]
		No, the labor force metrics only include people of working age.

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8note 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

as far as people go, the US could grant citizenship to all those people its trying to deport?

and there isnt a lack of people that would accept working in one of said manufacturing towns for 10 years or something to get US citizenship?

If manufacturing was a serious problem, the US could definitely solve that problem too.